[INFO] Gonna give a few extra minutes for everyone.  I am sorry for planning on a Holidat weekend for you Americans

Dace chats 'He's also sorry he cant spell.'

Freyja chats 'ROFL'
Alucard chats 'heh'

Krowe chats 'Really, I could be out drinking for Memorial Day... but no.... ;)'

Crono chats 'lol'

Noplex chats 'You drink everyweekend Krowe'

Ntanel chats 'he is drinking right now'

Koryon chats 'isn't everyone?'

Dakota chats 'how does it go? friends don't let friends mud drunk?'

Freyja chats 'unfortunately....no'

Koryon chats '*grin*'

Krowe chats 'Actually, last night was quite nice...'

Rosalyn giggles.

Leila hugs Siriah.

Kyre blinks in utter disbelief.

Siriah cuddles Leila.

Rosalyn hugs Feylind.

Mearn says 'god..too fast..i cant read this fast...holy..'

Alucard says 'ick GREEN HADES! without ansi'

Leila blinks in utter disbelief.

Apia smiles happily.

You ruffle Garil's hair playfully.

Siriah says 'hehehe'

Siriah ruffles Mearn's hair playfully.

Garil pokes you in the ribs.

Manaux gobbles down a can of spam. Oink!

Alucard gobbles down a can of spam. Oink!

Siriah says 'ick'

Rosalyn blinks in utter disbelief.

Siriah gobbles down a can of spam. Oink!

Melopene says 'lord, multitasking is nearly impossible with this much scroll'

Alucard rubs his tummy and exclaims, "Yummy!"

Rosalyn says 'oink?'

Siriah nods solemnly.

Kyre patiently twiddles her thumbs.

Rosalyn doesn't make little piggy noises.

Rosalyn giggles at Siriah's actions.

>agree kyr
You agree with her.

Iluvatar says 'be right back guys, I gotta say hi to KaVir'

Alucard covers his naked body...NO LOOKING!

Kyre smiles at you.

Crono says 'im bad!'

Siriah sits down and thinks deeply.

Iluvatar leaves in a swirling mist.

Kyre sticks her tongue out at Siriah, apparently thinking this will impress her.  Whadda jerk!

Alucard says 'IM FREAKIN WEAK!'

Alucard seems to get a laugh from something saying, "heh heh heh".

Crono seems to get a laugh from something saying, "heh heh heh".

Siriah sniffs sadly.

Siriah sprawls out haphazardly.

Apia leaves south.

[INFO] As you will possibly notice, everyone has the goto command

Siriah sprawls.

Rosalyn blinks in utter disbelief.

Alucard chats 'lol'
Melopene leaves in a swirling mist.


Leila sticks her tongue out.  How juvenile of her!

>go kavir
The Restaurant and Bar
This room has a good atmosphere.  It has no walls but it still seems kinda
comfortable.  To the north is the kitchen where everything is prepared.
The waitresses and waiters go in and out with food.  The tables are nicely
decorated with a scented candle in the middle and placemats.  Some menus
are here, that list a wide selection of food, for your ordering pleasure.
You can choose to sit here or pick another table.  Some more tables are
towards the west and east.  The bar is south.
Exits: north east south west.
(Immortal) Belgarath Owner Night of the Vampires is here before you.
Krowe is CB's RP Admin, Builder, and Apprentice Coder is standing here.
Koryon, Author of Vagrant is standing here.
Freyja, Covenstead - Owner|Admin|Imp is sprawled out here.
(Immortal) KaVir DarkBlade is here before you.
(Immortal) Noplex! Head Coder and Owner of Crimson Blade is here before you.
(Immortal) Kristi, MudWorld: Owner Forsaken Darkness is sprawled out here.
(Immortal) Iluvatar Hoarde Imp of the Phoenix crew! is here before you.
Melopene, Implementor: Kasana is standing here.

Koryon says 'we have a weekend (last weekend) for Queen Victoria... uhhh, I don't think many of us Canadians really know *WHY* we have a holiday for her... :)'

Melopene says 'oh my.'

Melopene grins evilly.

KaVir says 'Uh oh'

Melopene says 'i got away from alucard!'

Feylind chats 'lol, lookit go...'

Melopene snickers softly.

Crono chats ':)'

Krowe says 'I see Orion is getting burned on the whole copyright thing... I should check message boards more often.'

Belgarath grins evilly.

Scion arrives in a blinding flash of light.

Kristi says 'I saw that..'

[INFO] Startingg at room 2, go down and there is a directional desc for each topic room
Kristi hugs Scion.

Scion smiles happily.

Kristi says 'hey scion:)'

KaVir says 'He's not really getting burned...'

Kristi says 'seen angel yet:P'

Krowe says 'Well, he's being abused.'

Scion shakes his head.

Krowe nods solemnly.

KaVir says '7th Circle have just admitted that they're using his code against his license'

Kristi pouts.
Noplex says 'They did?'

Noplex says 'They aren't following the Smaug license either.'

Melopene chuckles politely.

Scion sits down.

KaVir says 'No?'

Krowe says 'Everyone needs to take a fundamental class on Copyright law if they are going to create anything... would cut down on ignorance and whining.'

Noplex says 'They don't have names of Creators in the greeting.'

Noplex says 'Atleast this morning they didn'

Melopene says 'some people will never change..'

KaVir nods in agreement to Krowe.

[INFO] There is some rather crappy weather in the states, so as I said before, I am waiting to see if a few people will make it.  Then I will introduce people up here on egoboost mountain.

Melopene says 'i wish they'd delete some of those posts though'

Melopene says 'i've been out of the loop lately, and come back to see 4 screens worth of that thread.'

KaVir says 'I don't think they need the names of the creators, just that its a smaug mud'

Krowe chats 'Is that like Space Mountain? I've always loved that ride...'

Noplex nods in agreement to KaVir.

Noplex says 'They need creators of Smaug'

Dace chats 'Space mountain is rough.'

Krowe shakes his head in Noplex's direction.

Freyja says 'well mine is checked and correctly copyrighted to the best of my knowledge'

Kristi says 'hehe'

Rosalyn chats 'leila's a footpad!'

Kratas has just achieved Avatarhood!

Kyre chats 'aww i want the title command'

Ntanel chats 'i rather be a footpad then a stubleg'

Kristi chats 'If you need your title set send me a tell:P'
Iluvatar leaves in a swirling mist.

Krowe says 'Damn near everything is based upon something else. Everyone is a derivative these days... too many licenses to have to keep track of.'

>go alucard
Discussion Hallway - Affiliate Posting
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North - 9015 General Discussion  South - 9033 Website Discussion
West  - 9094 Builder Discussion  East  - 9095 Coder/Programmer Discussion
Up    - 9098 Legal Discussion    Down  - 9240 Darkhaven Resort Square
NorthWest - 9096 Administrative Discussion
NorthEast - 9097 Client/Server Discussion

If you wish to open your site to new affiliates, write it on a note and
post it here.  Use "help note" to see how to write a note.  Do not use
the board to advertise your site or position openings.
Exits: north east south west up down northeast northwest.
Mystical sparkling colors converge here to form arcane runes...
Mearn, Mearn: PhoenixMUD is standing here.
Koroth is working on Sharune MUD(www.sharune.com) is standing here.
Feylind, Goddess: PhoenixMud is standing here.
(Immortal) Digifuzz the Neophyte is here before you.
Ayana the Scholar of Blood is standing here.
[(Link Dead)] Solarae the Spell Student is hovering here.
[AFK] Alucard, Builder: S. Ruins / Admin,Builder,Coder: HTO sits upright here.
Gerdan the Spell Student is standing here.
Hephos, Head Coder/Owner of Sharune Mud is standing here.
PjD Coder: Circle Code Base is standing here.
Siriah Implementor: PhoenixMUD is standing here.
Leila the Footpad is standing here.
Dakota, Admin: PhoenixMUD is standing here.
(Immortal) Iluvatar Hoarde Imp of the Phoenix crew! is here before you.
Crono Owner, High Tower Of Oblivion is standing here.

Siriah says '3am'

Mearn says 'Mearn is...VERY confused..and doesnt know what's going on :('

Feylind pokes Mearn in the ribs.

You ponder the question.

Morgaine leaves in a swirling mist.

You are filled with an odd sense of peace and tranquility.

Leila blinks in utter disbelief.

PjD says 'all right. peace :)'

Leila says 'oooies'

Siriah leaves west.
Leila leaves west.

w
Builder Discussion
Discuss anything having to deal with the building of areas/maps.
Exits: east.
Siriah Implementor: PhoenixMUD is standing here.
Leila the Footpad is standing here.

Siriah smiles happily.

Siriah says 'heyas'

You curtsey to your audience.

Siriah smiles happily.
You say 'hi :)'

Leila says 'hello'

Gerdan has just achieved Avatarhood!

Siriah says 'heh you do these meetings often?'


You say 'nope'
Siriah chuckles politely.
You say 'it seems a bit unruly'

Leila says 'how do i set my title?!'

Siriah chuckles politely.

Leila sticks her tongue out.  How juvenile of her!

Leila peers intently about the area, looking for thieves no doubt.

Rosalyn flies in from the east.

Leila says 'rosa!'

Siriah says 'leil send kristi a tell saying who you are, and which mud  she sets it for you'

Rosalyn says 'hi hi :)'

Leila says 'what do you mean "who I am?"'

Siriah says 'seems a bit disorganized'

Crono arrives from the east.

Leila blinks in utter disbelief.

Leila doesn't know what she is.

Alucard appears in a swirling mist.

You nod solemnly.

Siriah says 'like, Hi Im Leila,Player form PhoenixMud (addict)'

Siriah tickles Leila.

Alucard says 'alo builders'

Crono says 'hi'

Siriah says 'heyas'

Morgaine arrives from the east.

Leila grins evilly.

You say 'the rooms are a good idea if people start using them'

Rosalyn giggles.

Siriah nods solemnly.

Rosalyn flies east.

Crono says 'less spam in here!'

Crono says 'wOOt'

Alucard nods solemnly.

Siriah snickers softly.

Siriah seems to agree.


Siriah says 'So what does one discuss in regards to building?'

Alucard says 'hmm'

Siriah says 'just talk about building techniques?'

You say 'sure'

Alucard says 'how some peeps over use progs'

Jobo arrives from the east.

Siriah says 'heh'

Jobo leaves east.

Siriah agrees with Alucard.

Leila says 'whoooooo hooooo!'

Leila has a snazzy title.

Alucard claps at Leila's performance.

You say 'I just redid my building site today'

Siriah pats Leila on her back.

Morgaine looks at Leila.

Siriah nods solemnly.

Crono says 'what is it?'

[INFO] ok, now that the expected 3 of us are here, lets start some intros

Siriah chats 'ya! *clap*'

Rosalyn flies in from the east.

Crono says 'whats the url to your site Mischelle?'

Crono says 'err'

Noplex chats 'zoink!'

Crono says 'michelle'

You say 'http://www.artofbuilding.eqsdesigns.com'

Dace chats 'Zoit?'

Kublai chats 'all right,  just point me towards the bar'

[INFO] This session was developed by myself, Thoric, Kavir, Siobhan and Furry

Alucard thinks, 'Hmmmm.'

Alucard says 'ill check that out'

Zaroth chats 'hehe'

Siriah chats 'kuber!'

Crono says 'cool, ill take a look'

[INFO] Siobhan may be late, Furry may not make it, incase you wondered

Rosalyn flies east.

Crono says 'umm'

Crono says 'Lots of stuff here!'

Crono says 'on your site!'

You nod solemnly.

Kublai chats 'I heard there were going to be Katja Nyobe autographed souvenirs'

[INFO] Welcome Belgarath of Night of the Vampires

Koroth chats 'lol Kublai'

Zaroth chats 'sign me up'

Zaroth chats 'hehe'

[INFO] Thorin a creator of Abydos Server

Koroth chats 'wonder igf she's hot :P'

Leila says 'i gotta go guys, fighting with my mother.'

[INFO] Noplex, owner of Crimson Blade
Leila sighs loudly.

PjD chats 'yeah, that reminds me, how is her kid doing?'

Siriah cuddles Leila.

Alucard waves goodbye to Leila.

Leila hugs Siriah.

Siriah says 'bye hon'

Alucard says 'goodbye '

Crono says 'aww, bye'
Leila says 'have fun and make me proud!'

Morgaine hugs Leila.

Siriah smiles happily.

PjD chats 'she just had a baby about 6 months ago right?'
You say 'so Alucard, why do you think  poelple overuse progs?'

Siriah says 'behave!'

Leila hugs Siriah.

Leila rolls on the floor laughing hysterically.

Siriah hugs Leila.

Brody has just achieved Avatarhood!

Leila says 'suuuuuure'

Leila chats 'bye all :)'

Siriah says 'hey a lady can hope'

[INFO] Brody from Otherspace

Leila snickers softly.

Siriah waves goodbye to Leila.

Leila says 'mmmhmmm'

Iluvatar arrives from the east.

Leila waves happily.

Kristi chats 'laters:)'

Leila hugs Iluvatar.

Leila waves happily.

Leila has left the game.

[INFO] Kristi from Forsaken Darkness

Iluvatar leaves east.

Alucard says 'some areas are loaded every room with like 4-5  progs that pretty much do the same thing'

Dace chats 'booo!'

Kristi chats 'hey!'
Freyja chats 'LOL'

Dace chats '*sncikers*'

[INFO] Nightraven from Dark Saghani and HighJourne

Freyja chats '@hugs kristi'

Alucard says 'see i believe progs rock, but sometimes its just cool to keep some areas basic heh =)'

[INFO] Dace from Soul Ruins

Kristi chats '*hugs freyja:)*'

Angel chats '*giggle*'

Dace chats '*bows*'

Siriah knows noting about progs.

[INFO] Michelle Thompson from the Art of Building

Siriah just writes pretty.

Morgaine nods in agreement to Siriah.

Feylind chats '*clap clap!'

Siriah shows her approval by clapping her hands together.

Kublai chats 'hi fey!'

You say 'would it be any better instead of using the same progs over and over if they made different ones?'

[INFO] Iluvatar, Head Admin of PhoenixMUD

Siriah chats 'Phx! *clap*'

Morgaine chats 'ILUV!'

Dakota chats 'booo hissss'

Noplex chats 'Zoinkies!'

Mearn chats 'wooooooo phoenix! :)'

Kristi chats 'hey orion:)'

Noplex chats 'Orion :)'

OrionElder chats 'Hello.'

[INFO] Michelle and Iluvatar are also 2 of the 5 Judges for the plot contest which ends on June 7th

Callinon chats 'heya Orion'

Alucard says 'sometimes its ok, i went to a builders area who worked for me one time'

OrionElder chats ':)'

OrionElder chats 'Someone took Orion. :P'

[INFO] Garil of DotDII

Alucard says 'every room pretty much had same greet prog'

Dace chats 'lol'

Kublai chats 'thank goodness for that late due date'

[INFO] Digifuzz of ResortUD
Kyre chats '*slips a 20 to Michelle and Iluv*'

Alucard says ''Good day Lord $n' and this was for all mobs'

Kublai chats '*feels like hes in school again'

Ntanel chats 'er ResortMUD'

Alucard says 'would have been ok if it was for the guards only...but'

Siriah says 'heh ick'

Angel chats '*snicker*'

Rosalyn chats '*slips a 256mg ram chip to michelle and iluv* :)'

[INFO] Kavir of GodWars as well as alot of other stuff

Kristi chats 'fuzzy:P'

Siriah chats '*clap*'

Iluvatar chats 'money serves no purpose hehe, Michelle and I can't be bought!'

OrionElder chats 'Heh, so, hmmm....'

Feylind chats '*claps again*'

Brody chats 'Heya, Kav'

Zaroth chats 'hehe'

KaVir chats 'Hi Brody'

Alucard looks at himself.

You say 'speak for yourself'

[INFO] Nemon, Creator of IMC2

You stare at the sky.

Siriah snickers softly.

Dace chats 'yah!'

Siriah pats you on your back.

Kristi chats 'Hi brody:)'

You say 'I am kidding of course'

Kyre chats 'hmmm... *slips a scantilly clad woman to Iluvatar*....'

[INFO] Scion, Owner of Devine Right

Siriah says 'oo..'

Siriah rips up the check.

[INFO] or Divine

Siriah sniffs sadly.

Iluvatar chats 'umm, nopes Kyre'

[INFO] Gammon is Nick Gammon of Gammon Software

Siriah chats '*clap*'

[INFO] Gerdan is George Greer of Circle and the first guy to ever let me be an immortal anywhere

Noplex chats 'Chris Rock?'

[INFO] Thoric of SMAUG, FTP.GAME.ORG and Realms of Despair

You say 'right I can see how that woudl get annoying'

Alucard looks at himself.

Siriah says 'Do many muds use the diagnal room exits?  (ne, nw, se, sw, etc)'

[INFO] Angel of Soul Ruins and ResortMUD

Dace chats 'boo!'

Angel chats 'about time :P'

[INFO] Angel, Dace, Kristi and...
Kristi chats 'hehe'

Angel chats '*halo*'

Dace chats 'Allready said me...'

[INFO] they are the hosts, they set your titles

Kristi chats 'me to:P'

[INFO] In room 9011 you can goto it and find a room to chat about certain topics

[INFO] And yes, no one bu i can use this channel,, muhahaha!  Oh wait, 6 thers can

Siriah chats 'hehehe'

Iluvatar appears in a swirling mist.


Siriah beams a smile at Iluvatar.

Noplex chats 'Learn how to spell Info man!'

Kublai musics 'yes but you left us this wonderful side bar'
[INFO] HAHAHAH!

[INFO]

Kublai musics 'somewhere   over the rainbow'

OrionElder has just achieved Avatarhood!

Koryon chats '*is sorry about suggesting the title to Ntanle*'

Koryon chats 'I mean info channel'

Kristi chats 'hehe'

Crono says 'damn, brb'

You say 'I like using progs, but not the same ones repeatedly'

Alucard nods solemnly.

Crono has left the game.

Alucard nods in agreement with you.

Alucard says 'me to'

Michelle is in love with progs.

Siriah chuckles politely.

Alucard says 'you can make very interesting, and complexed quests'

Siriah agrees with Alucard.

Iluvatar says 'you guys use dg_scripts yet?'

Alucard says 'can't say that i have'

You say 'the last time I built for a circle they weren't popular yet'

Kyre arrives from the east.

Alucard says 'i always built for smaug merc and resort'

Iluvatar says 'they do awesome things but tempermental as hell and easily crash a system'

Siriah agrees with Iluvatar.
Apia arrives from the east.

Alucard chuckles politely.

Siriah beams a smile at Apia.

You say 'I thought you built for Addict too'

Alucard chats 'Tribute to makers of meet greet == My bio heh'

Apia chats 'Is anyone here from old old Hypenet, Strikenet or old Jedimud?'

[INFO] If you log your conversations here and wish to make what was discussed public, email the logs at the end of the night to ucmm@inetsolve.com and they will be posted at MudWorld and possibly elsewhere

Kublai chats 'old JediMUD woo stimpy.jhu.edu!'

You grin evilly.

Gerdan chats 'No, but maybe I could rope Rasmussen..if he's not busy....he's online right now.'

Alucard smiles happily.

Apia chats 'yeah! you Kublai!!!'

You say 'we could always talk about the usage of you :P'

You stare at the sky.

Siriah says 'heh never never never,,'

Alucard chuckles politely.

Apia chats 'heh'

Siriah stares at the sky.

[INFO] In logging, before submitting, remove the unneeded prompts and such

Iluvatar chuckles politely.

Akasha arrives from the east.

You say 'never talk about it, or never use it?'

Kublai chats 'grin  I used to play on an ancient AberMUD out of aachen.de back in '88'

Kyre sits down.

Akasha leaves east.

Alucard says 'hmm afk for a moment'

Alucard is now afk.

Siriah says 'heh never use it :P Unless in extra descs, exit descs, or finery detailed stuff'

Iluvatar says 'oh sure Ma, let's get a heated discussion going! You, you, instigator!'

Apia says 'i wanna know...who /fi's exits over two lines?'

Zaroth arrives from the east.

Siriah raises her hand in response.

Zaroth sprawls out haphazardly.

Siriah sprawls out haphazardly.

Siriah rises from her rest.

Apia raises an eyebrow.

Zaroth rises from its rest.

Siriah likes the sprawl thing.

You say 'I either /fi all exits or none no matter what the length'

Zaroth nods solemnly.

Iluvatar chuckles politely.

Iluvatar hugs you.

Apia says 'hmmm eyeroll equivalent?'

Kyre rolls her eyes.

Kyre says 'that would be roll, dear'

Apia chuckles politely.

Apia rolls his eyes.

Iluvatar says 'to me if one liners, it looks funny to see the /fi dangling'

You nod solemnly.

Apia says 'i only /fi descriptions'

Zaroth nods solemnly.

Zaroth says 'same here'

Manok appears in a swirling mist.

Siriah says 'Manok :)'

Manok licks Siriah.

Kyre licks herself - YUCK.

Kyre nods solemnly.

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Siriah snickers softly.

Siriah says 'modonitis!'

Apia says 'how you do swirling mist...do we get transfer?'

Siriah says 'goto'

Siriah leaves in a swirling mist.
Siriah appears in a swirling mist.

Apia says 'cool'

Siriah says 'ppofin'

You grin evilly.

Siriah says 'emm poofin'

Apia says 'i made a discussion site alot like this once'

Siriah is mumbling under her breath.

Apia says 'called it the cyberspace hotel and conference center'

Kyre says 'at least the ex-hubby isnt here.. that I know of..'

Apia says 'it was for my professional organization'

You say 'how about mobs?'
Kyre makes a face.

You say 'and fi'

Siriah says '/fi mobs'

Morgaine disappears into the void.

Siriah says 'unles they are oneliners'

Siriah says 'but one lining descs on mobbies is lazy :P'

Hephos arrives from the east.

Apia says 'i only /fi room descriptions and extra descriptions if real long'

Apia pokes Siriah in the ribs.

Apia says 'is not either'

Iluvatar agrees with Siriah.

Hephos sits down and thinks deeply.

Zaroth nods solemnly.

Apia says 'humph'

Kyre looks at Apia.

Kyre looks at herself.

Kyre frowns.

Apia used to work on a mud with a 4 line maximum for room descriptions!

Siriah says 'ok not lazy...'

Zaroth comforts Kyre.

Siriah says 'how about.. un motivated :)'

Apia looks at Kyre.

Siriah tickles Apia.

Kyre looks at Siriah.

Zaroth raises its hand in response.

You grin evilly.

Siriah grins evilly.

Kyre looks at Zaroth.

Zaroth says 'heh'

Ayana arrives from the east.

Apia looks at himself.

Kyre looks at Ayana.

Apia looks at Zaroth.

Kyre looks at Iluvatar.

Apia snickers softly.

Iluvatar says 'there are only so many things you can say about a fido, but less than 80 characters is a little cheap'

Siriah sits down and thinks deeply.

Apia says 'he most bu a burrahobbit'

You say 'I usually try to keep myself 4 mininum 8 max, for rooms'

Siriah says 'heh: its a smelly stinky dog.'

Zaroth looks at Apia.

Siriah nods in agreement with you.

Ayana leaves east.

Kyre looks at you.

Iluvatar agrees with you.

Zaroth looks at itself.

Siriah says 'thats about right, makes it not spammy to read but meaty and enjoyable'

Kyre looks at Manok.

Iluvatar says 'but if it flows and has purpose, over 8 is not a bad thing'

Manok looks at Kyre.

You say 'I give some on the max if its a key room, and I get carried away'

Manok smiles happily.

You stare at the sky.

Kyre winks at Manok.

Siriah snickers softly.

Apia says 'the only time i go much over is for tricks...like falling descriptions'


Iluvatar says 'Apes here is our head script writer'

Kristi chats 'If you need your title set send me a tell:P'

Angel chats 'or me :)'

Kyre says 'I usually try to use 3 or 4 sentences for every description unless I have something really exciting to say'

Apia hugs Kyre.

Ntanel chats 'or them'

Apia hugs Iluvatar.

Kristi chats 'or dace:P'

Hephos leaves east.

Apia says 'thanks for the nomination boss :-)'

Angel chats 'yeah, send them to him :P'

Ayana arrives from the east.

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Dakota chats 'feel free to send all title requests to Siriah'

Siriah smiles happily.

Iluvatar says 'not a nomination, a fact'

Iluvatar says 'erm, did I miss something?'

Malkav chats 'I'm a programmer professionally. I'm fairly good at it. Just dont know perl.'

Apia sits down and thinks deeply.

Zaroth says 'yes, Siriah just got promoted it appears'

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Siriah says 'yes, much to my surprise!'

Apia chuckles politely.

Iluvatar chuckles politely.

Siriah says 'now for the lvls that go behind promotions'

Thoric chats 'Perl's definately not my language of choice either'

Siriah daydreams.

Zaroth chats 'Perl is alright, quite a few holes however, unless you scan all entries for metacharacters, namely redirect and pipes'

Freyja chats 'I'm a Sys/Net Admin and Consultant professionally...but definitely need to work a bit on my coding....been a while'

Alucard is no longer afk.

Alucard coughs loudly.

Siriah coughs loudly.

Alucard stretches luxuriously.  Makes you want to, doesn't it?

Apia hugs Kyre.

Kyre offers a box of Sucrets.

Siriah sprawls out haphazardly.

Siriah grunts like a pig.
Zaroth chuckles politely.

Siriah says 'I got a spring cold'

Siriah says 'how sweet is that'

Ayana leaves east.

Apia smiles happily.

Alucard says 'heh sorry if i keep going afk or answer slowly cause im building and chatin'

Apia says 'np here!'

Alucard beams a smile at Apia.

Kyre says 'no problem here, im trying to keep a toddler from tearing up the house:p'

Siriah says 'ok building techniques, when you are on your 15th desert room, how do you keep it alive and non-mundane for you the builder, and for them The Player?'

Kristi chats 'If you need your title set send me,angel or dace a tell:P'

Apia says 'Ilu...you think it was the zedit attach?'

You are filled with an odd sense of peace and tranquility.

Iluvatar says 'I am pretty sure it was, check your emails'

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You say 'thesauri and dictionaries'

Kristi chats 'Welcome Keolah:)'

You say 'to the desert question'

Siriah says 'well ok, but one can only desc sand so many times heh'

Iluvatar says 'I just reviewed the format of Michelles website again -- it seriously rocks!!'

Siriah rises from her rest.
Zaroth nods solemnly.

You say 'if all else fails your friendly encyclopedia'

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Alucard says 'hmm BIGGEST QUESTION OF ALL: Do you think its ok to add the word 'you' in a room desc?'

Zaroth says 'NO'


Zaroth says 'final answer'

Siriah says 'I think its an atrocity'

Kyre says 'we already covered that sweetie'

Kyre pats Alucard on his back.

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Siriah says 'but we covered that :)'

Alucard says 'oops little late'

Kyre smiles happily.

Siriah giggles.

Alucard chuckles politely.

Angel chats 'Hey Keolah, been awhile'

Zaroth says 'never ever tell them what they are thinking or feeling'

Iluvatar says 'it depends Alucard'

Zaroth winks at Alucard.

Keolah chats 'hi'

Alucard says 'ok notha question...'

Dsark arrives from the east.

Siriah agrees with Zaroth.

Kyre says ''You walk into the room. You smell smoke. Your foot gets stuck on a rock.''


Alucard says 'do you believe its ok to use slang in a desc?'

Iluvatar says 'if the player chose to do it, context says You did it works'

Kristi chats 'Kooky!'

Zaroth nods solemnly.

Zaroth says 'I can see that standpoint'

You say 'hmm, perhaps for inspiration on deserts you could read/reread Dune'

Ntanel chats 'kooky means party anaimal, yeah!'

Crono has entered the game.

Siriah grunts like a pig.

Iluvatar says 'but it's awful to see a room with you do this, you do that as if forced to do it'

Koryon chats 'is the copyright lawyer still coming Ntanel?'

Alucard tips his cap to Crono. My how chivalrous!

Ntanel chats 'he said he was'
Crono says 'Hi'

Jobo arrives from the east.

Ntanel chats 'matt becker is his name'

Zaroth says 'slang in a desc? I'd say it would depend on the context'

Jobo leaves east.

Apia says 'what do you think....about....this.....?'

Ntanel chats 'i am assuming he is running late'

Siriah says 'You'

Ntanel chats 'i sent reminders last night'
Siriah sprawls out haphazardly.

Siriah says 'You're halfway up the mountain, and you feel like you can't go on"'

Siriah rises from her rest.

Siriah is mumbling under her breath.

Siriah blames Manok.

Freyja chats 'that name sounds really familiar'

Manok says 'what?'

Iluvatar says 'that is imposing feeling'

Kyre says ''You trip and fall and die.''

Apia says '.......this.......'

Ntanel chats 'he sues people'

Alucard says 'lol'

Crono says 'heh'

Manok blinks in utter disbelief.

Keolah chats 'I will now stand in this room and forget I have this window open.'

Zaroth says 'if you trip/fall/die, wouldn't you want to trigger that with/to a death?'

Ntanel chats 'haha'

Dsark leaves east.

Apia says 'i like....using.....dots....in descriptions.....'

Iluvatar says 'if you trip and fall and die, then they had no control, something made them do it'

Siriah nods solemnly.

Siriah says 'trigs'

Callinon chats 'sounds good :)'

Zaroth nods solemnly.

Kyre nods solemnly.

Alucard says 'prog mpechoat YOU DIE!'

Alucard seems to get a laugh from something saying, "heh heh heh".

Crono says 'heheh'

Ntanel chats 'it is not so bad, i spammed myself so bad the last time my computer crashed, but it sucked and was old'

You say 'what about "a dense fog surrounds you" ?'

Kyre says 'ooh or how about 'You can't breathe underwater!' but the character is a sea elf.....'
Crono leaves east.

Alucard says 'i like the innocent little progs mpechoat $n Oops, you died!'

Alucard chuckles at Kyre's joke.

Kublai chats 'at least you don't have bad line noise over the phone line coupled with a touchy internal modem!'

Ayana arrives from the east.

Zaroth agrees with you.
Crono arrives from the east.

Crono says 'man o man'

Jobo arrives from the east.

Zaroth says 'I can see in the fog instance'

Alucard chuckles politely.

Kyre says 'I think 'a dense fog surrounds you' is ok because it implies the action of the fog, not of the character'

Alucard says 'wazzup crono?'

Zaroth says 'but saying "you feel scared as you creep around the corner..."'

Talanthas arrives from the east.

Zaroth says 'just doesn't flow'

Siriah agrees with Zaroth.

Kyre sighs loudly.

Crono says 'nuttin yo, i just got back from gettings some smokes'

Alucard says 'You begin to sing because your crazy!'

Kyre says 'my son is tossing diapers'

Iluvatar agrees with Kyre.

Siriah snickers softly.

Alucard seems to get a laugh from Crono and says, "heh heh heh".

Manok says 'a dense fog fills the area, decreasign visibilty.'

Alucard says, 'ooOOooOOooOOoo.'

Siriah coughsdecreasingcough.

Zaroth says 'we have that in a room already'

Zaroth says 'in 2 actually'

Apia says 'i have come to prefer just not using you's anywhere...'

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Kyre coughvisibilitycough.

Apia says 'i have changed over the years on that'

Siriah snickers softly.

Ntanel chats 'anyone here use aol?'

Jobo leaves east.

Manok says 'mememe'

Angel chats 'YES'

Manok chats 'mememe'

Siriah says 'chat manok'

Krowe chats 'Don't remind me Ntanel...'

Alucard says 'A dense fog appears suddenly causing any traveler to lose their visability'

Crono chats 'bah, aohell'

You chat 'no, i like my computer'

Manok agrees with Alucard.

Mearn chats 'I do.'

Zaroth chats '#2 by choice?'

Angel chats 'shush, it's free'

Siriah says 'visibility'

Zaroth chats 'hehe'

Siriah pokes Iluvatar in the ribs.

Ebon chats 'i do Ntanel'

Manok was trained not to use "you" under threat of swift and painful death.

Iluvatar chats 'gods, I hope not Ntanel, they should get a handicap if do'

Ntanel chats 'ok, the admin discussion is ways to ban AOL, we need to know if it is possible'

Kyre says 'actually it should be 'to lose his or her visibility' if you want to be technical:P'

Apia chats 'does anyone know a coder named Brian Hirt?'

Belgarath chats 'yes'

Alucard chats 'heh'

Belgarath arrives from the east.

OrionElder chats 'Yep.'

Belgarath leaves east.

Zaroth says 'thats a great idea'

Siriah says 'a dense fogs rolls in, its impossible to see a bloody thing.'

OrionElder chats 'Though it can put a REAL crimp on your player base, if they have it.'

Kublai chats 'ive seen some places that supposedly just ban them outright'

Iluvatar chats 'yes Ban Select and only let those in that ask nicely!'
Apia chats 'where is he?'

Siriah sticks her tongue out.  How juvenile of her!
Zaroth says 'blind triggers'

Angel chats 'why does everyone want to ban me? :P'

Ebon chats 'why should AOL be banned?'

Kyre says 'not that most people WANT to see bloody things...'

Apia chats 'oh...heh'

Siriah chats 'lol, everyone wants aol banned'

Crono chats 'no'

Kristi chats 'i dont ::)'
Kublai chats 'aarwolf says they do but i don't know anyone upstairs ther and they are  pretty big playerbase'

Crono chats 'aol is hard to ban'

Manok says 'why is aol so hard to ban?'
Kublai chats 'oops i should be saying this not chatting huh'

Kristi chats 'i wont get rid of angel!'

Kyre says 'hmm my typing is about to become ridiculous... the boy wants in my lap'

Iluvatar chats 'AOL is not to blame, it's just the sporadic freaks who come online and abuse the muds'

Zaroth says 'its the proxies they use'

Siriah snickers softly.


Zaroth says 'and the config of their network Manok'

Crono looks at Alucard.

Alucard looks at himself.
Manok says 'dont they all end in aol.com?'
Crono looks at himself.

Alucard chuckles politely.

Alucard looks at Crono.

Ebon chats 'agrees Iluvatar'

Zaroth says 'yes, but if we go *.aol.com'

Zaroth says 'that gets rid of ALL of aol'

Crono leaves east.

Dakota chats 'problem with aol is that *many* of them who log on are teenagers who live at home. so although not everyone is bad...well hormones are hormones'

Manok says 'wasnt that the point?'

You say 'my typing is always ridiculous when I am breathing, thats what spellcheckers are for'

Zaroth says 'I'd vote yes'

Iluvatar chats 'Ban Select then set siteok each who wants to play -- the ones who ask are serious about it and usually behave'

Siriah chats '*coughs at dakota*'

Kublai chats 'we do all right with our select ban'

Kyre says '`-------------'

Keolah chats 'I've found permanent bans not too useful, but 48-hour bans seem to deter stupid people enough :p'

Zaroth says 'due to players'

Kyre says 'spodrry'

Zaroth says 'however....'

Siriah says 'lol'

Alucard leaves in a swirling mist.

Ntanel chats 'here is another one, anyone ever have someone claiming to be on of the admin here when they logged into your mud?'

Apia chats 'still...AOL could be more specific in their addresses if they wanted to'

You chat 'how about a newbie ban versus a full ban?'

Ebon chats 'i know RoD has a ban on AOL .... i had to log in at work ...get my char started ...then i could log into RoD from AOL'

Apia chats 'AOL itself chooses to make their own users hard to identify'

Alucard chats 'try some colors'

Zaroth chats 'we know who the admin are, and impersonating an admin is frowned apon'

Siriah scowls.

Alucard chats 'might be a little bit easier'

Kublai chats 'ahh colors ok  but no aliases '

Thorin arrives from the east.

Ras chats 'I've had people claim to be ME'

You curtsey to your audience.

Thorin says 'hi'

Kublai chats 'i need mudaliases'

You say 'hello'

Zaroth beams a smile at Thorin.

Siriah chats 'Dakota once tried being me, but he said he didnt like the way my gown fit'
Zaroth says 'hiyas Thorin'

PjD chats 'and i've had people claim to be good looking. really, which is the worse crime here ;)'

Kristi chats 'hehe'

Dace chats 'heh'

Dace chats 'none for me, noone wants to be me.'

You ponder the question.

Apia quests 'hello?'

Manok quests 'Hi'

Noplex arrives from the east.

Kristi quests 'no quests today:P'
Apia quests 'cool..different channel'

Kublai quests 'bonus'

Noplex leaves east.

Kublai quests 'lets have a quest'

Siriah quests '*whine*'

Zaroth says 'what is Kubbers doin?'

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Manok says 'how about my tag'

Manok smiles happily.

Siriah says 'I hate that'
Ayana leaves east.

Siriah says 'that sucks so bad'

Zaroth says 'yes!'

Manok grins evilly.

Siriah will tag you next.
Zaroth says 'I can run diagonally now'

Zaroth grins evilly.

Zaroth slaps Manok on the back and screams, "You're it slowpoke!"

Zaroth is narrowly missed by a low-flying dragon.

Siriah snickers softly.

Siriah says 'thats a hard image to conjure'

Kublai chats 'anyone ever played on old jeenustoo back around '93?  out of an oregon college math dept. ?'

Kyre tries to break dance, but nearly breaks her neck!

You say 'Do you like adding non-essential objects?'

Siriah sits down and thinks deeply.

Kyre throws an alligator at Siriah!!

Manok nods solemnly.

Zaroth says 'yes, to confuse people'

Kyre blinks in utter disbelief.

Siriah says 'I dont usually.. But I think they give a nice flair to the zone'

Apia says 'i dont...but lots do on our place'

Kyre says 'ok, afk a bit'

Kyre is now afk.

Manok says 'yups, adds a personal touch.'

Talanthas says 'What do you mean by non-essential?'

Talanthas says 'Not needed to kill the big mob?'

Siriah says 'like a stone on the side of the path'

Siriah says 'stage prop'

Talanthas nods solemnly.

Zaroth wields a prop sword.

Apia says 'low level eq just for mobs to wear and stuff'

You say 'An ojbet that is not there for its stas or providing clues'

Zaroth grins evilly.

Iluvatar says 'our mud is set up to say "you don't see that here" or "that does not exist" as a default look'

Siriah says 'usually anything like that I jsut turn into an extra desc in the room and be done with it'

You nod solemnly.

Apia says 'rocks and sticks on the ground'

You say 'low level eq on mobs'

Iluvatar says 'it makes it tough to not create extras'

Siriah nods solemnly.

You say 'and rocks and sticks'

Talanthas agrees with Siriah.

Zaroth nods in agreement to Siriah.

Apia says 'as a player i find that stuff annoying'

Thorin says ':)'

Manok says 'added my mark on that altar last night'

Manok smiles happily.

Siriah says 'but its cool to go throwing non essentials in to throw off the player heh'

Zaroth says 'my rooms take forever, everything I have in the desc is an extra, with at least 3-4 extra descs in a room'

You say 'is there such a thing as too many extra descriptions?'

Zaroth says 'I believe no'

Apia says 'what i would like is to be able to customize more mob actions based on race especially'

Talanthas hates doing room descs.

Siriah sits down and thinks deeply.

Hephos arrives from the east.

Iluvatar says 'I take each room as an experience we give the mudder.  I do get carried away as the others will tell you, but I want it to simulate real life as much as possible'

Apia says 'i have spiders that are casting webs from their fingers!'

Siriah says 'well I spose its how you present the descs'

You nod solemnly.

You say 'I often make extras that come from the descriptions of my extras'

Siriah says 'nested'

Siriah nods solemnly.

You nod solemnly.

You stare at the sky.

Zaroth says 'I'd rather see 1 really great extra desc then 3 plain ones that explain what the room desc did'

Siriah says 'those are good, make the player worlk for it'

Thorin says 'l'

Iluvatar chuckles politely.

Thorin says 'oops'

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Manok says 'add the occasional pun in a desc.  gotta hide it from the h-imp though.'

Iluvatar says 'that's good also Zaroth, and tons do that'

Siriah snickers softly.

Apia chuckles politely.

Siriah bonks Manok! BONK!! BONK!! BONK!!

Iluvatar chuckles politely.

Hephos leaves east.

Apia says 'he usually misses them..he's a bit slow'

Manok smiles happily.

Manok nods solemnly.

Iluvatar cuddles Manok.

Apia says 'oops..hey Ilu!'

Talanthas says 'Mob question:  How do you folk generally go about "sizing" your mobs?  I find that to be one of the toughest parts of building'

Apia says 'i like puns too'

Manok says 'sizing?'

Siriah says 'sizing? like whta lvl to set them?'

Zaroth says 'puns? where's Modon?'

Talanthas says 'Targeting for levels...How tough to make them, and whatnot'

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Siriah nods solemnly.

Iluvatar says 'but Zaroth, ever make a ruby ring for example made of gold and forget to do a 'look ruby' response?'

You nod solemnly.

Talanthas says 'Hit points, that sort of thing'

Siriah says 'hmm, generally based on how good the eq is, how valuable, how easy or hard the area is to get too'

Manok says 'mud automaticly makes the hp's and stuff for us'

Zaroth says 'no, I haven't played with the EQ, thats last to be done'

Siriah says 'we have a mob generator'

Manok says 'we just throw in the level.'

Siriah says 'we put in lvl, it does the rest'

Iluvatar says 'and what the equivalent values of players are'

Zaroth says 'and my mentors agree with me'

Zaroth nods in agreement to Apia.

You say 'the best way if you arent the head builder is to ask the head builder for an area of the player level you are looking ofr'

Zaroth nods in agreement to Siriah.

Zaroth smiles happily.

Talanthas says 'What about number of attacks?'

Apia says 'the down side of that tho...'

Talanthas says 'And type of attack'

Siriah says 'settable'

Apia says 'i think we way overuse sanc in affect on mobs'

Siriah says 'a bee gets asting attack'

Iluvatar agrees with Apia.

OrionElder chats 'I would like to request that anyone who worked on the RoGD project speak with me, in room um... uh...'

Siriah says 'common sense rules the day'

Talanthas says 'I am the head builder...One of them, anyway'

OrionElder chats 'Well, one of them. :p'

Siriah says 'bears thrash or maul'

OrionElder chats 'One of the QUIET ones. ;)'

You nod solemnly.

Siriah says 'dragons bite, breath, slash, whip..'

Callinon chats 'there're quiet ones?'

Iluvatar chats 'try the legal room?'

Manok chuckles politely.

Apia looks at Kyre.

Callinon chats 'that's sad :P'

Zaroth looks at Apia.

Ras has just achieved Avatarhood!

Talanthas says 'Ok...That's obvious...number of attacks?'

Kublai chats 'dresses for all'

Siriah rolls her eyes at Manok.

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Manok beams a smile at Siriah.

Siriah says 'number of attacks we dont have settable :P'

Iluvatar chats 'Kublai wears a tophat for those occasions guys.'

Talanthas seems to get a laugh from Siriah and says, "heh heh heh".

Zaroth chats 'Welcome to the party Ras'

Apia says 'i would prefer actually if what we set were hps and level'
Ayana arrives from the east.

You say 'match the number of attacks that players of that class have for that level'

Kublai chats 'you aren't in our room Iluv  *wink'

Siriah nods in agreement with you.

Zaroth rolls on the floor laughing hysterically.


You say 'ie a mage mob should never have 5 attackes'

Siriah says 'makes sense'

Talanthas says, 'ooOOooOOooOOoo.'

Apia says 'and if the mobgenerator could calculate exp from the combination of level and hitpoints'

You say 'but a warrior mob just might'

Talanthas says 'That's a good idea.  I'm going to mention that to our code council'

Apia says 'so you could have a low level high hitpoint mob'

Apia says 'or a high level low hitpoint mob'

Talanthas nods solemnly.

Apia says 'but the exp would correspond'

Iluvatar says 'there are so many interdependent factors'

You nod solemnly.

Apia says 'those two would be the primary ones tho'

Iluvatar says 'at least our system sets the basic 125 levels on an ascending scale that we can work with'

Talanthas says 'With a corresponding chance of hitting on each attack to that class type'

Talanthas nods solemnly.

Apia says 'is true'

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Apia says 'but i think we use sanc affect too much'

Iluvatar says 'it does take an Administrator or higher to modify that base stat scale by hand'

Apia shrugs helplessly.

Ayana leaves east.

Zaroth says 'sanc is a good thing'

Manok says 'need sanc tro make it harder to kill them mobs'

Zaroth says 'it gives people a reason to create mages'

Crono arrives from the east.

Alucard appears in a swirling mist.

Zaroth says 'on top of the other benefits'

Crono leaves east.

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Apia says 'but the thing is...you can make the mob twice as hard to kill as the same level unsanced'

Zaroth says 'dispel magic is a great spell all the way around'

Alucard twirls in a graceful pirouette.

Apia says 'but they give the same exp'

Talanthas says 'That's only good if you're trying to encourage multi-playy'

Iluvatar says 'we run a remort system where there are in effect 300 levels of mortal players against only 125 levels of mobs on a fixed scale'

Malkav chats 'But why limit it?'

Zaroth says 'yes,which adds a challenge I believe'

Alucard says ',S THE CRAZIEST WEIRD MAN ALIVE!'

Ntanel chats 'smaug is smaug codebase, they want thier own muds listed'

Alucard grins evilly.

Siriah blinks at Alucard in confusion.

Zaroth says 'Alucard, relax'

Iluvatar says 'I totally disagree with the limit as it stands'

Crono arrives from the east.

Talanthas raises an eyebrow at Alucard.

Zaroth pats Alucard on his back.


Alucard says 'sorry goin a bit crazy heh'

Crono leaves east.

Alucard rises up.

Crono arrives from the east.

Crono says 'hee'
Crono looks at Thorin.

Alucard sweeps Zaroth into a romantic waltz.

Crono says 'hehe'

Crono leaves east.

Ntanel chats 'just like resortmuds and calareymuds get listed at the rm site and other codebases do it at other sites, it is an example'

Zaroth sweeps Alucard into a romantic waltz.

Alucard says 'sike sorry to bug you all, but i need a way to stay awake'

Thorin leaves east.

Siriah says 'heheh  Time you got, Aluc?'

Alucard says 'my way == go a little crazy'

Iluvatar comforts Alucard.

You say 'one thing that I really hate on some codebases is level 5 mage mobs never fail'

Apia sits down and thinks deeply.

Manok says 'heh, our lvl 5 mages never cast'

Iluvatar agrees with you.

Siriah snickers softly.

Alucard says 'time is only 10 but been up since 2 in the morning'

Zaroth says 'yes they do'

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Iluvatar says 'thing is though, could you see if they fail?'

Alucard sweeps Apia into a romantic waltz.

Zaroth says 'my Mu  has a -4 -6 hit/dam, spells are the only way it stays alive'

You say 'you can see it if a player filas'

Alucard says 'wow'

You say 'fails even'

Manok says 'ment mobs Zaroth'

Zaroth says 'ahh'

Zaroth nods solemnly.

Alucard says ' hmmm'

Alucard says ' hmmm'

Siriah thinks, 'Hmmmm.'

You say 'some codebases just do not taking mob mages clerics failing into consideration'

Apia says 'usually the mob says...shit'

Zaroth agrees with Apia.

Alucard says 'heh'

Apia says 'no wait...that's when i fail'

Iluvatar says 'we have some ancient mob_progs that guide mage sets, I have no clue if they fail or how often successful.  Some we use triggers for and set them low success rate.'

Mateo has just achieved Avatarhood!

You nod solemnly.

Iluvatar says 'actually, more a low usage rate because usually don't fail'

Apia nods solemnly.

Apia says 'right'

Siriah says 'heh not as often as the players do'

Zaroth says 'mob_progs are on the way out though, at least thats what I was led to believe'

Apia says 'fail is based more on player stats'

Kyre disappears into the void.

Iluvatar agrees with Apia.

Alucard tips his cap to everyone in the room.
Manok says 'insanly bad timing on the fail's as well'

Alucard leaves east.

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Iluvatar says 'it's all planned Manok hehe'

You nod solemnly.

Brody chats 'Heya'

Manok says 'i believe it'

[INFO] in a second you can cantch him in the legal discussion room

Manok says 'must be some of them secrets on board 14'

You say 'usually mob stats are diff=icult to adjust'

Apia says 'my mortal has been killed ...almost every time...by three failed heals in a row'

Iluvatar chats 'Welcome Matt!'

Mateo chats 'hello...sorry a bit late :P'

You say 'have to manipluate the file to do that'

Zaroth says 'hehe'

Apia says 'almost every death has been from the same thing'

Zaroth says 'usually I'll lose conc on perfected spells'

Apia says 'the stun penalty is severe'

Manok says 'and the crit fail on mastered brew'

You nod solemnly.

Ayana arrives from the east.

Zaroth chuckles politely.

[INFO] Ok, if you have legal questions or want advice, come ro toom 9098 and speak to Matt Becker (MAteo

You say 'thats why you have to have someone else tanking if you are a caster'

Ayana leaves east.

Siriah agrees with you.

Siriah says 'mana burners'

Siriah is mumbling under her breath.

Manok says 'psha, clerics make good tanks'

Zaroth says 'yes, they do'

Zaroth nods in agreement to Manok.

Zaroth says 'well, Avian ones don't'

Apia says 'you should go ask about parentis absentis Ilu'

Apia snickers softly.

Iluvatar says 'I have to go speak with Matt for a second, brb peops'

Zaroth nods in agreement to Iluvatar.

Iluvatar leaves east.

Siriah waves happily.

Apia chuckles politely.

Apia hugs Siriah.

Dakota arrives from the east.

Zaroth beams a smile at Dakota.

Dakota says 'checking out the other rooms'

Siriah says 'mingling'

Siriah wiggles her bottom.

Apia nods solemnly.

Apia snickers softly.

Apia leaves east.

Siriah says 'well'

You say 'afk, fedding the puppies'

Siriah says 'what other building questions exist'
You are filled with an odd sense of peace and tranquility.

Manok says 'HOW TO KILL MENTORS?'

Siriah blinks in utter disbelief.
Manok says 'j/k'

Manok smiles happily.

Zaroth says 'I know how'

Manok hugs Siriah.

Siriah leaves east.

Talanthas smiles happily.

You say 'you could always look at me site, and find something you disagree with :)'

Zaroth says 'ask Iluv'

Talanthas is still on mobs.

Zaroth grins evilly.

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Kyre has returned from the void.
Kyre is no longer afk.

Zaroth winks at Manok.

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Apia arrives from the east.

Kyre rises up.

Apia smiles happily.

Zaroth tickles Apia.

Zaroth smiles happily.

Zaroth bows deeply.

You are now afk.

Talanthas says 'Any ideas on what the correct ammount of damage an unarmed mob should  be able to do in a single attack?'

Apia says 'ok here's a builder question'

Talanthas says 'using damdice'

Apia says 'how beholding are you to graph paper squares for maps'

Dakota says 'would really vary depending on your mud'

Zaroth says 'most ever?  11D2, for a special mob'

Manok says 'thass it'

Apia chuckles politely.

Manok says 'thast weak'

Zaroth says 'unless you want a brute force killer'

Zaroth says 'then go with 20D9'

Zaroth says 'and call it the Phoenix'

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Apia leaves east.
Kyre leaves east.

Zaroth says 'I would ptest'

Talanthas says '22 points max for normal, or 180 points max for major mob.  Does that include av-killers?'

Zaroth says 'In all serios ness'

Zaroth says 'seriousness'

Talanthas seems to get a laugh from Zaroth and says, "heh heh heh".

Zaroth says 'it depends on a number of factors'

Talanthas nods solemnly.

Talanthas says 'I realize that...But there must be some general rule of thumb you follow, yes?'

Manok says 'the mud does it for us'

Dakota says 'level, what's considered low vs high damage on your mud, what types of damage weapons themselves do on your mud'

Manok shrugs helplessly.

Zaroth nods in agreement to Manok.

Zaroth agrees with Dakota.

Talanthas says 'Well, we're a new mud...Just starting up.  We don't have standards for high vs. low damage yet'

Dakota says 'my suggestion would be to have the barehand damage do about the same as the weapon the player might be wielding who is fighting it'

Talanthas says 'I'm trying to develop them now.  What would be realistic?'

You are no longer afk.

Zaroth says 'wb Michelle :D'

Dakota says 'its completely up to you. some muds prefer to have 200 or more damage. on phoenix a high damage is in the 30's.  some places have it in the teens'

Talanthas smiles at you.

You smile happily.

Kristi chats '*chirp*'

Alucard arrives from the east.

Talanthas nods solemnly.

Alucard smiles happily.

Dakota says 'high damage gives you the opportunity for more variety in stats of the eq on your mud'
Feylind chats '*whistle whistle cheep cheep cheep*'

You say 'anything exciting happen while I was gone?'

Kristi chats 'hehe'

Talanthas agrees with Dakota.

Zaroth says 'just discussing dam dice max's and how to match with characters and mobs'

Dakota says 'but then your mobs have to be beefed up extremely high to match it'

You say 'high damage makes the players feel powerful'

Crono arrives from the east.

Manok says 'its all comparative'

Zaroth nods solemnly.

Alucard whispers something to Crono.

Dakota says 'i don't think there is a right or wrong. its a preference of the owner or imm staff'

Talanthas nods solemnly.

You nod solemnly.
Zaroth nods solemnly.

Alucard says 'umm anyone here not work on a mud, but have building experience?'

You say 'and the players'
Fizban arrives from the east.

Zaroth beams a smile at Fizban.

Zaroth whispers something to Fizban.

Talanthas says 'I'm just trying to make it easier for our builders to do the technical stuff, so that they can spend more energy on the creative stuff'

Zaroth nods solemnly.

You say 'there will be a playerbase for high power, and low'

Fizban whispers something to Zaroth.

Dakota says 'my suggestion would be first to determine what range you want damage to be in'

Talanthas nods in agreement to Dakota.

Talanthas says 'Sounds logical'

Dakota says 'and how long/difficult you want your fights with mobs to be'

Fizban leaves east.

Manok says 'and their hp's'

Dakota says 'right'

Alucard leaves east.

Alucard arrives from the east.

Dakota says 'once you have the hp of a mob and the damage you as a player can do, then you have a base and can start designing mobs and their damage'

Thoric chats 'I have to leave in a minute or two... nice seeing you all again :)'

Crono leaves east.

Manok chats 'buh bye'

OrionElder chats '*nod Thoric* :)'

Belgarath chats 'later thorix'

OrionElder chats 'Later.'

Belgarath chats 'thoric'

Kristi chats 'nice seeing you again thoric:) take care *hugs*'

Alucard chats 'c'ya'

KaVir chats 'Take care Thoric, see you at the RoD party :)'

Freyja chats 'by thoric and thanks'

Alucard beams a smile at Dakota.

Kooky chats 'Bye'

Crono chats 'bye thoric'

Talanthas says 'Well, hps are more or less set by level of the mob.  I guess I just have to figure out how much damage a player can do.'

Manok nods solemnly.

Alucard says 'Some Head builders believe that death traps should not be utilized in a mud because it creates problems, do you believe otherwise?'

Manok says 'nope, DT's suck'

Dakota says 'its a matter of opinion again'

Dakota says 'players tend to hate them'

Zaroth says 'I'd have to say 1 or 2 max'

Manok says 'discourage exporation'

Belgarath chats 'later all i keep hitting lag pockets, might be back later'

Alucard nods in agreement to Zaroth.
Talanthas says 'I believe that they should be used, but sparingly and only in areas where one would expect to be unable to recover a corpse'

Dakota says 'are you going to be hack and slash? rp?'

Talanthas says 'Like quicksand'

Zaroth says 'with at least 300 moves between recall and them'

Kyre chats 'bye belgarath!'

Siriah chats 'ok pplz, 4 am my world, and Im nt staying focal - ws nice meeting you all :)'

Zaroth says 'so newbies cannot get anywhere near them'

Talanthas agrees with Zaroth.

You nod solemnly.

Manok chats 'Buh bye Sirie'

Kyre chats 'night siriah'

Kooky chats 'Cya Bel'

Zaroth chats 'night Siriah'

Alucard says 'normally its not bad when you have back up files incase the mort whines alot'

Angel chats 'Bye Sirah :)'

Kooky chats 'Cya Sirah'

Alucard chats 'cya'

Freyja chats 'maybe we ought to exchange ICQ's again and make it super spammy'

Talanthas doesn't believe whining morts should get their way, most of the time.

Talanthas says 'You play the game, you risk losing'

Manok nods solemnly.

Alucard seems to get a laugh from something saying, "heh heh heh".

Zaroth agrees with Talanthas.

You nod solemnly.

Dakota nods in agreement to Talanthas.

Manok says 'but then you got those who are auction morts'

Manok says 'never leaving towns'

Alucard says 'theres always the ones though, whine whine whine'

Manok says 'due to fear of dt's'

Alucard seems to get a laugh from something saying, "heh heh heh".

Talanthas shrugs in response to Manok's question.

Dakota says 'to me the biggest advantage of a dt is cleaning up eq on the mud'

Kristi chats 'sweet dreams:)'

Talanthas says 'That's his problem'

Alucard says 'i guess thats when we break out ban'

Kristi chats 'mischan:P'

Zaroth says 'sometimes, like a newbie finding an aggro zone at 3am where no one else is on, I see where the IMM might assist with the corpse'

Alucard nods in agreement to Zaroth.

Alucard says 'i would as well'

Apia chats 'heh'

Zaroth says 'or something of the sort'

Manok says 'of course, why we put agro zones near newbie hometowns'
Talanthas says 'That's reasonable, Zaroth.'

Alucard says 'there newbies what goods could they be packing'

Zaroth says 'you'd be amazed'

You nod solemnly.

Alucard says 'No i lost my dirk'

Talanthas says 'But it should be difficult to impossible for a newbie to find his way into an area too tough for him'

Alucard says 'heh i guess it depends on the mud as well'

Feylind arrives from the east.
Mearn arrives from the east.

Talanthas says 'That's the builder's responsibility'

Zaroth says 'I've given newbiew EQ to keep them set till lv 30'

Feylind thinks she has a clue ... but she is wrong.


Zaroth says 'when they can afford better stuff'

Manok says 'we got agro zones right up from the main marketplace'

Feylind found a home.

Feylind sprawls out haphazardly.

Manok hugs Feylind.

Alucard says 'ahh another big problem with building unacurate placement of areas'

Feylind hugs Manok.

Dakota says 'well its actually the head builders responsibility. they need to decide on the appropriate place for the zone'
Zaroth shakes its head.

Feylind nods in agreement to Alucard.

Zaroth agrees with Dakota.

You say 'actual newbie zones should have !mob entrances to keep the wandering aggros from wandiering in'

Alucard nods solemnly.

Talanthas says 'Well, yes.'

Fizban chats 'why does i dont get teleported from here it say that it will teleport me in 5 sec but nothing happens'

Feylind says 'we have a stay-zone mob flag for that'

Alucard says 'sorry sometimes im one sided because of being a Head Builder so much i neglect the builders'

You say 'as a newbie though, what I generally do is  get a mage walk until I die'

Talanthas says 'I think that the hard level range should also be used for aggro areas'

Zaroth says 'excuse me a moment'

Zaroth leaves in a swirling mist.

You say 'get invis, go back where I died invis and see if I die again'

Alucard seems to get a laugh from you and says, "heh heh heh".

Zaroth appears in a swirling mist.

Zaroth smiles happily.

Fizban appears in a swirling mist.

Zaroth nods in agreement to Fizban.

Fizban says 'thanks :)'

Zaroth nods solemnly.

You say 'I don't think argro zones should be really difficult to get to all of the time, just not close to town'

Zaroth says 'there are some pieces of EQ that add a decent chunk of move'

You say 'and newbie zones should be protected from wandering aggro mobs'

Malkav chats 'Mobile rights! Yes!'

Zaroth says 'which is more then enough to find them'

Talanthas says 'Well a lev 5 or so shouldn't be able to just waltz on into a level 40 area'

Dakota says 'the problem is often not the zone but the player. you can put a ton of clues about what a zone entails, but people who just wander without reading can still hit an aggro zone'

You say 'if they ffeel like walking for a bit, why not?'

Zaroth nods in agreement to Dakota.

Feylind nods in agreement to Talanthas.

Alucard says 'ahh i love the ability to type who (race/class/order/guild) and get a list of names'

Manok says 'afk'

Alucard nods in agreement to Manok.

Zaroth nods in agreement to Manok.

Feylind buries Manok back under the carpet.

Zaroth snickers softly.

Fizban rises from his rest.

Fizban leaves east.

Dyne arrives from the east.

Dyne leaves east.

Alucard stretches luxuriously.  Makes you want to, doesn't it?

Alucard says 'wow terrible headache'

Koryon chats 'I just almost swallod a button whole... *oops*'

Talanthas comforts Alucard.

Alucard icks!

Kristi chats 'eep'

Kooky chats 'Was it a RED button?'

Koryon chats 'black'

Dyne chats 'whas it blue?'

Koryon chats 'It almost came out red though, if that counts'

Kristi chats 'Hey dyne:)'

Ntanel arrives from the east.

Akasha chats '*laugh*'

Dyne chats 'hi peoples :)'

Kristi chats 'alright where's the bar:P'

You say 'the question is where is the line between pretoecting a player from themselves, and inhibiting exploration'

Alucard chats 'as long as it isnt cyan!'

Koryon chats '*rofl*'

Ntanel chats 'from 9011, go down and west till end and then nort to the bar'

Alucard leaves in a swirling mist.

Ntanel says 'ok builder types'

Mearn disappears into the void.

Kooky chats 'Was it a blinking button?'

Hephos chats 'who made smaug have so damn bright colors!? :)'

Manok comes out from the carpet, and takes a cookie from Feylind.

Dyne chats 'bright?!?!?!'

Talanthas says 'Well, I think you can reasonably allow a 20 level difference in the hard and soft level ranges.'

Alucard chats 'lol i died'

Dakota says 'nice site Michelle'

You say 'I think you need to put up the warning and such, but if a player still walks in (a lentghy walk at that) ...'

Kristi chats 'who's at the bar i should say:P'

Ntanel says 'how many of you all have stories or plots for areas you have written?'

You say 'thanks :)'

Crono chats 'lol'

Talanthas says 'That shouldn't inhibit exploration too much, and will also help protect newbies'

You nod solemnly.

Kristi chats 'hehe'

Koryon chats 'until I choke and die, at least'

Feylind nods solemnly.

Akasha chats 'hehe I tried to give him the heimlich or however that is spelled but it didn't work'

Dakota says '1 suggestion....put in a site map :) sometimes when you go to a subheading from a heading...it gets a bit confusing :)'

You say 'there is a sitemap in about'


Mateo chats 'drink it down...it will come out '

Dakota says 'oh wow there is :)'

You smile happily.

Feylind thinks, 'Hmmmm.'

Dakota the moron.

Dakota winks suggestively.

Feylind says 'we have a city that we are enabling for newbies, but it connects, via a good walk though, to several high level agrro areas'

Zaroth leaves in a swirling mist.

Ntanel says 'molly is still in bed, but her partners are online, gonna drag em over if i can, hehe'

Koryon chats 'it came out, but my thrat hurts and I think I taste blood, I've got a new award for you Ntanel, stupidest member of the mud community not counting mord (and I nominate myself)'

Feylind says 'i would like to see a mob standing on the roads leading from this city, warning the newbies not to pass any farther'

Akasha chats 'why were you trying to eat buttons?'

Manok says 'why not make the guards do that'

Ntanel says 'what ya do koryon?  suprised ya did not nominate vryce or such'

Koryon chats 'well, do I have to answer that question... ?  :)'

Ntanel giggles.

Angel chats 'Anyone need their title or rank set?'

Feylind chats 'hey, i chew on my buttons all the time, and no, i've never eaten one yet :)'

Kristi chats 'ya if you do send either me or angel a tell:P'

Akasha chats 'giggle'

Talanthas says 'Feylind, you can easily do that with some simple mprogs.'

Kristi chats 'hehe'

Feylind nods solemnly.

Feylind says 'but the question was, should it'
Talanthas says 'Use greet type progs, and check the pc levels.  That should work well'

[INFO] Welcome Samson of Arthmoor, SMAUG Snippets and Alsherok

Hephos chats '"can i be an impl?" <- love those ones'

Samson chats 'Greetings people :)'

Kristi chats 'Samson!'

Feylind says 'its an easy fix to -do- yeah'

Manok says 'hmm....i still cant edit those progs.'

Mateo chats 'goodevening'

Dakota says 'i think the biggest challenge we have right now on phoenix is having enough newbie zones to support multiple hometowns for new people upon creation'

Feylind says 'but is it our problem is the question, persoally i think it is, but others disagree'

Zaroth appears in a swirling mist.

Feylind says 'it would just take a trigger manok'

Zaroth gives a glass of white wine to Feylind.

Zaroth bows deeply.
Samson chats 'So how's everyone tonite?'

Zaroth smiles happily.

Feylind beams a smile at Zaroth.

Kristi chats 'good U?'

You nod solemnly.
Angel chats 'cold!'

Ntanel chats 'naked, you?'

Kristi chats 'ya that to:P'

Kublai chats 'tired'

Talanthas says 'It really depends on how you present it.'

You say 'there always seems to be a shortage of newbie zones when you are a newbie'

Samson chats 'Good. Just got back from the movie. Pearl Harbor rocks :)'

Angel chats 'freezing and sleepy'

Kristi chats 'ntanel wanna borrow my dress?'

Manok says 'we have like...3'

Ntanel chats 'no thanks'

Kristi chats 'awww:P'

Angel chats 'I heard it sucked from some ppl, but then I've heard a few say it was good'

Kristi chats 'You'd look cute in black  vinyl:P'

Dakota says 'i think most people (new builders anyway) decide to build with this idea of some high level zone.  not often that you have someone who wants to write a newbie zone'
Feylind says 'build a newbie zone Manok :)'

Zaroth leaves in a swirling mist.

You nod solemnly.

Iluvatar chats 'tight black vinyl?'

Manok says 'i got 7 zones to do'

Kristi chats 'hehe'

Talanthas says 'You can make it a rambling old man...Who no-one really wants to pay any attention to...That would allow you to give your warning and satisfy the other imms that you're not being overprotective'

Feylind says 'we have a slight problem with high level zones too at the moment though'

Kristi chats 'I did'nt say tight:P'

Angel chats 'you can have my red vinyl if you like :P'

Feylind nods in agreement to Talanthas.

Feylind says 'excactly Talan'
Samson chats 'Whoever said it sucks wasn't watching the same movie I saw'

Malkav chats 'Lets not start this discussion people. It has a bad (Good) affect on me. ;)'

Feylind says 'BUT, can i get the others to agree to it'

Feylind blinks at Dakota in confusion.

Dakota raises an eyebrow.

Kristi chats 'hehe'

Manok says 'heh, just do it and see if anyone undoes it'

Malkav chats 'Hehe.'

Apia chats 'back'

Feylind says 'not just you Dak, but the other imps i general :)'

Kristi chats 'wb'

Dakota says 'agree to what?'

You say 'would shortening the repop time on the existing newbie zones be worthwhile?'

Zaroth appears in a swirling mist.

Zaroth gives a bottle of Budweiser Beer to Dakota.

Talanthas says 'Again, it all depends on your presentation.  Build a demo mob to show them one way you might do it.  That's probably the best way to get them to see your vision'

Ntanel leaves east.

Manok says 'all you have to do is convince iluv.  your city manager and he is pm2 head'

Dakota starts to nibble on a bottle of Budweiser Beer... (he must really be hungry)

Feylind says 'I am enabling Aeth for newbies, but if you start one there, just THINK of all the places it could wander to a FAST death.  I want to add an old man mob, standing on teh road, that the newbie as to say something to him, or he turns them back'

Zaroth chuckles politely.

You nod solemnly.

Fizban arrives from the east.

Zaroth leaves in a swirling mist.

You say 'mob progs are a good way to add warnings and clues'

Dakota says 'that place is not good for newbies. is there even a newbie zone near it?  that whole part of the continent is pretty full already too'

Manok says 'heh, imange naraka'

Feylind nods solemnly.

You are filled with an odd sense of peace and tranquility.

Manok says 'you got lvl 120's all over the place near that town.'

Dakota says 'i don't think we have a problem with newbie zones all being used up, but a lack of them to put on other future hometowns michele'

Kristi chats 'If you need your title set send me or angel a tell:P'


Feylind says 'personally,i don't think Aethelfyrd OR Naraka should be enabled as newbie hometowns'

Manok says 'not for a while'

You nod solemnly.

You say 'I guess that leaves it to the head bihuilder to build some more :P'

Manok says 'naraka is already hometown for remorts'

Feylind nods solemnly.

Dakota says 'i don't believe you need huge cities for hometowns for newbies.  little race specific zones would be more than enough'

You say 'one of the joys of being head builder is to bulid all the areas the mud needs that no one else wants to'

You nod solemnly.

You say 'a village could be a home tomw'

Alucard arrives from the east.

Dakota nods in agreement with you.

You say 'just some of the shops would be doubled up'

Zaroth appears in a swirling mist.

Dakota says 'i think its a common misconception that a hometown must be a large city'

Manok says 'or lack the shops'


Alucard slaps Dakota on the back and screams, "You're it slowpoke!"

Zaroth gives a taco to Manok.

You say 'ie in villages smithies do both weapons and armor'

Alucard leaves east.

Zaroth gives a boneless steak to Fizban.

Zaroth nods solemnly.

Fizban says 'thank :)'

Manok says 'and in a very very small town, may be no shamen or magician to make the scrolls and such'

Fizban eats a boneless steak.


You say 'true'

Krowe arrives from the east.

Kublai arrives from the east.

You say 'but you have to offere equipment for when they die learning the mud'

Kublai chuckles politely.

Dakota says 'what are some suggestions on shops? i'd say about 85% of the shops we have are next to useless as far as armor and weapons.  are they worth it?'

You say 'yes, whenyou die as a newbie they are'

Kublai says 'well'

Manok says 'maybe if we had decent eq in there'

Zaroth says 'they benefit Mu's '

Zaroth says 'once again'

Kublai says 'our newbies tend to get so loaded up with better eq'


Zaroth says 'enchant'
You say 'course with my method of exploring I die a lot'

Feylind says 'they do?'

You stare at the sky.

Zaroth says 'definately'

Feylind grins evilly.

Zaroth says 'I'll go buy 80 daggers'


Zaroth says 'and sit, pracing enchant '

Kublai says 'yeah there is  '

You nod solemnly.

Manok says 'you put the effort into getting a lvl 100 mu then you deserve the benifits'

You nod solemnly.

Zaroth says 'thats what i'm workin' on hehe'

Zaroth licks Manok.

Manok says 'mu's and clercs are a pain to level'

Zaroth agrees with Manok.

Hephos arrives from the east.

You say 'mus are very hard at low level everywhere'

You say 'theives too'

Kublai says 'i alwaysl ike them better'

Kublai says 'magic missle'

Manok says 'on our mud thieves are the easiest'

Kublai says 'lets you hit things!'

Dakota says 'i would disagree...most classes at low levels are about the same'

You say 'at the lowest levels anyways'

Feylind says 'thieves at phoenix are easy'

Feylind nods solemnly.


Kublai says 'when i started mudding 12 years ago i wasn't good at a mage'

Feylind says 'they get backstab at like level 7, something i really disagree with :)'

Kublai says 'but now its what i usually start with if i go mudhopping'

Krowe says 'mana users get hosed at low levels... cast a couple of spells, rest to recover mana... do again...'

You say 'they get more hit points, and can wear better armor'

Manok says 'heh'

Zaroth says 'mana users get hosed till 50+'

Zaroth says 'then we get all the good stuff'

Manok says 'armor is usualy the same on Pmud'

Kublai says 'the thing that i find about poor mu's'

Kublai says 'is that everyone is jealous of their spells and always cry foul that they are unbalanced'

Krowe nods solemnly.

You say 'also a lot of muds base their experience against what a level warrior that level can do'

Hephos says 'i really dislike mana spell systems'

Krowe says 'Those are the people that never level one.'

Kublai says 'so you end up with a mage who's spells end up being twaeaked down too miuch'

You nod solemnly.

Zaroth says 'I tell them to build one, and spend the $$$ buying EQ and leveling it, my Mu has used 3 times the gold my lv 100 tank has, and my Mu is a mid level'




Talanthas smiles happily.

You nod solemnly.


Feylind says 'you dislike mana spell systems?'

Manok says 'i think thieves shouldnt be able to go up and up with a warrior'

Feylind says 'how so/'

Zaroth says 'yes, or at least a better mana regen rate for newbies'

Angel chats 'Hello Shorty'

Dakota says 'does anybody actually use a realistic travel system? where it takes more than 1 minute to move from one continent to another across an ocean?'

Krowe says 'Sure they should. They're quick, dodge more, hit more, just weaker hits... karate as opposed to boxing.'

Kristi chats 'hi Shorty'

Kublai smiles happily.

Kublai leaves east.

Feylind says 'ugh Dak, that just woudlnt' work though'
Shorty chats 'hiya'


Manok says 'they are suposto hit from shadows, not go toe to toe with a tained warrior'

Angel chats 'if you need your title set send me or Kristi a tell'

Krowe shakes his head.

Feylind says 'think of the mud's time system, they most likey ARE walking at tnormal rate'

Ntanel chats 'shorty, this the shorty who's mud i am on now?'



Dakota says 'well the time system would be different'


Krowe says 'Rogue's need not be always thought of as assassins...'

Shorty chats 'that would be me'

Manok says 'assassin's ar a sepreate class'

Shorty has just achieved Avatarhood!

[INFO] Welcome Shorty from 4 Diemnsions

Manok says 'they can go toe to toe with wariors.'

[INFO] yes, i can not spell

Zaroth says 'we are allowing good aligned assassins (IF they can RP the part)'

Samson chats 'Greetings Shorty'

Krowe says 'Rogues are about speed and agility.. finesse as opposed to strength'

[INFO] we can tell
Shorty chats ':)'

Alucard chats 'alo Shorty'
Zaroth says 'and it would have to meet strict guidelines'

Krowe says 'And ANYONE can be an assassin. Assassination is the act of killing, not a job description.'

[INFO] He'll learn to type one day:P

Zaroth nods in agreement to Krowe.


Talanthas says 'Actually, the word rogue only implies that they are outlaws....Muggers, maybe.  Highway bandits'

[INFO] we hope

Manok says 'in that case even the clerics are assassin's'

OrionElder chats 'Heh. :)'

Krowe nods in agreement to Talanthas.

Talanthas says 'Don't have to be stealthy or use finesse at all'

Kooky chats 'Whoo's dis info dOOd talkin to me?'


Krowe says 'Yes, but the RPG environ seems lend most people toward the rogue = agility mindset, which is why I use it.'


Angel chats 'no one O:)'



Talanthas says 'That is specifically for a thief.  A subset of the rogue class'

Krowe says 'And yes, even Clerics can be assassins.'



Feylind thinks, 'Hmmmm.'



Mearn has entered the game.

Hephos leaves east.
Mearn has returned from the void.

Manok says 'by your definition, everyone is an assin though.'

Mearn says 'bah..what happened there?'

Krowe says 'Would not a Mage be considered an assassin if he were paid to kill someone?'

Feylind says 'rogue to me leads me to think theif though'

Freyja chats '::sighs:: some days...windows just SUX'

Zaroth says 'linkless'

Zaroth pokes Mearn in the ribs.

OrionElder chats 'Yah. Very much so. :)'

Samson chats 'Some days? :P'

Crono arrives from the east.

Freyja chats 'okay okay...all days'

Feylind says 'heh, i am all for good aligned assassins, i was the first i know of on my mud'

Dakota says 'i think we are a bit off building as far as topic goes :)'

Freyja chats 'just more some days than others'

Kristi chats 'heh'
Crono says 'are there any builders here looking for work?'

Alucard chats 'I think I better get some sleep, have fun all =)'

Feylind says 'everybody "needs" assassins, its a just a role, not an aligment'

Krowe says 'true.'

Talanthas beams a smile at Dakota.

Kooky chats 'Cya'

Crono chats 'bye swordo'

Krowe grins evilly.

Angel chats 'night Alucard :)'

Kristi chats 'Night alucard:)'
OrionElder chats 'Yeah. It's allowed a day off from being the crappiest every ninety-three days and seven minutes. ;)'

Kublai chats 'ciao ciao'

Talanthas says 'Not really....Discussing what a class really IS helps to understand how people might role play it, and what you might want to build in response'


Krowe says 'When you build, do you do it with a story? i.e. ...'

Fizban leaves east.

You nod solemnly.

Manok nods solemnly.

Krowe says 'Is there a specific item or named mob that is to be acquired or killed.'

Zaroth says 'most of the time, unless its a one way room that will launch you elsewhere in the realm'

Talanthas says 'Since we've hit a lull in conversation....Let me ask a question on a different topic....How many people here try to build true puzzles into their areas?'

Talanthas says 'Not just the slash and kill for the good item routine?'

Zaroth raises its hand in response.

Krowe raises his hand in response.

Zaroth says 'all of Phoenix does'

Zaroth nods solemnly.

Kooky chats 'They left me all alone in da bar with the waitress.'

Manok says 'i add hidden doors, keys to get keys...ect'

Kristi chats 'awww'
Hephos arrives from the east.

Zaroth nods solemnly.

Zaroth nods solemnly.

Dakota says 'that's a good one talanthis.  puzzle zones are good, but once you beat it, there tends to be little challenge a 2nd time through'

Ntanel chats 'it is your chance, take her!'
Krowe says 'Testing the players as much as the characters.'

Talanthas grins evilly at Dakota.

Talanthas says 'Not true'

Kristi chats 'hehehe'

Dakota says 'that is a problem we have run into anyway'

Kristi chats 'Kooky you can come over here:P'

Kooky chats 'Heheh, I too drunk...'

Kristi chats 'hehe'

You say 'if you make puzzles only exist once for a each player, that would be greate'

Talanthas says 'I've managed to make a set of combination locks that require the player to solve a riddle.  The answer to the riddle is the combination'

Dakota says 'does the riddle change?'

Talanthas says 'I can change out each riddle/answer set in a matter of moments.'

Dakota nods solemnly.

Talanthas says 'And they're fighting the clock, as well'

Zaroth says 'hmmmm'

Dakota says 'but the smart players will write down the question and answer and his friends will too and it doesn't take long for them all the have the right combos between them'

Zaroth nods solemnly.

Zaroth says 'I was just going to say that'

Talanthas grins evilly at Dakota.

You nod solemnly.

Noplex walks in from a ACME(tm) black void.

Talanthas says 'So if I start to see a rise in the pop-item they'd be going for, I swap out the riddle'

Noplex throws a ACME(tm) black void against the wall and walks through it.

Krowe says 'Then the smart Imm changes things around slightly, so as to through the answers off just a little bit.'

Krowe grins evilly.

You say 'building in things like that is still worth the effort though even though people cheat and share'

Talanthas says 'It's a really simple change, now that I worked out the combination'

Dakota says 'i think someone on our staff once suggested putting key mobs into a maze and have them wander a bit'

Talanthas says 'It's also tough to get through to the riddles.  They have to work their way through a shifting maze (cluse ARE given)'

You nod solemnly.

Zaroth says 'certain mazes really aren't mazes however, due to the  code in the mud itself'

Zaroth says 'repeat the same pattern long enough, and you can get out of any maze'

Manok says 'which is why the mze shifts'

Talanthas says 'Not if you use the randomize reset.'

Zaroth says 'it wouldn't matter, valid direction or not'


Manok raises an eyebrow.

Zaroth says 'take Crystal gardens for  example'

Manok says 'know your waya round battle zaroth?'

Zaroth says 'where you have to look in each of the rooms?'


Zaroth says 'yes, I have 4 of them mapped in my head'

Manok chuckles politely.

Zaroth says 'with the most common pattens'

Manok says 'they are all random'

Zaroth says 'patterns'

Zaroth says '1/2 is random'

Zaroth says 'other half is generated'

Zaroth says 'I thought'

Talanthas grins evilly at Zaroth.

Manok says 'the black white rooms'

Manok says 'ther eis no pattern.'

Manok says 'at all'

Zaroth says 'yes, those are a headache'

Zaroth says 'but fun when playing tag'

Zaroth slaps Manok on the back and screams, "You're it slowpoke!"

Talanthas says 'Next time you log into your mud as imm, help resetcmds.  check out random'

Zaroth leaves east.

Zaroth arrives from the east.

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Dakota says 'do you encourage your players who are also builders to explore with their builders? or prohibit it as a method of cheating for their mortals?'

Krowe nods in agreement to Talanthas.

Talanthas says 'That's how the arena was made'

Angel chats 'Hello Numark :)'

Krowe says 'Very useful things.'

Nall chats 'hi numark :)'

Numark chats 'heyas :)'


Angel chats 'if you need your title set send a tell to either Kristi or I'

You say 'I prohibit exploring with immortals'

Numark chats 'k thanks'

Zaroth says 'thats how people found out things about our clan hall that they shouldn't have, but I can't veto any authority at all, I have 0 to begin with'

Talanthas says 'Well, all our builders are primary imms.  They have players basically to keep an eye on the mortal world.'

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Dakota nods in agreement to Talanthas.

Dakota says 'i think you will fi nd as you grow and players say they want to build that you will run into the problem'

Zaroth says 'good idea, but limits the building perspective, don't you think??'

Talanthas says 'Perhaps.  We'll deal with it somehow then'

Zaroth smiles happily.

Zaroth nods solemnly.

Talanthas says 'At the moment, though, we're too new to have to think about it'

Dakota nods solemnly.

Crono says 'any of you builders looking for a job?'

Dakota says 'generally i give small reprimands'

Manok says 'you guys stock, or built from the ground up Talanthas?'

Talanthas says 'Right now we're a mixture.  As we finish off new areas, we're going to pull out the stock and be totally unique'

Manok nods solemnly.

Zaroth says 'no offense Crono, but my building skills will lie where my pride and home is, at PhoenixMUD.'

Crono nods solemnly.

Numark arrives from the east.

You say 'wanting to look at nother area (ie for level examples could be given on a case per case instances) but it would never be assumed as something a builder could do'

Crono says 'i dont want to steal anyone'

Talanthas raises an eyebrow at you.

Talanthas says 'I don't understand what you said'

Crono leaves east.

Krowe says 'As in, a builder looking at another level to help balance their own area.'

Zaroth nods solemnly.

Krowe says 'another area of similar level'

You nod solemnly.

Talanthas says 'Oh'

Feylind disappears into the void.

You say 'but never "exploration" as in learning the mud for knowledge'

Talanthas nods solemnly.

Manok says 'doesnt it depend on how you use it?'

Manok says 'having an imm who doesnt know the mud is a bad thing to me'


Mearn disappears into the void.

Zaroth nods solemnly.

You say 'if they don't know the mud to a degree, they should not be an imm, imo'

Krowe says 'I've already fed a few new Imm's to Bal because they just wandered around learning stuff for use on RoD or for they Morts with us.'

Manok says 'to a degree yes, but ther are some things you just cant learn as a player'

You nod solemnly.

Dakota says 'you don't necessarily have to know a mud to build for it'

Zaroth says 'like building'

Zaroth winks at Manok.

Manok says 'looking at trigs to see how they work.'

Krowe says 'Well, if you are stock MUD working toward's uniqueness, most of your areas are gonna go anyway, so why not take a new face in to see what they have?'


Zaroth says 'statting triggers can you get you into trouble'


Manok says 'see how some eq load rages match up with level of mobs and difficulty of getting it'

Manok says 'rages = rates'

Zaroth says 'as I have learned, and I'm happy there's a such thing as a godlog'

You nod solemnly.

Ntanel arrives from the east.

You say 'that is why I said you can say, you are building an area for this level, look at this area'

You are filled with an odd sense of peace and tranquility.

Dakota says 'any things that are made out of balance are always taken care of in review of the zone'

Brody arrives from the east.

Ntanel says 'hey micheele, the new site up yet?'

Ntanel says 'hi brody'

You say 'what would be better though'

Manok says 'plus i hate it when morts know more than me about certian things.'

Brody waves happily.

Zaroth chuckles at Manok's joke.

You say 'yup went up this morning'

Dakota says 'for the longest time we had an imp on phoenix when didn't even have a mortal'

You say 'is to have that info in a building manual'

Zaroth nods solemnly.

You say 'or to have example areas on the building port'

Hephos says 'how old is phoenix ?'

You say 'you could use a mud that you think is well balance on the mortal port, and change it so that it does not add to the imms palyer knowledge'

Krowe nods in agreement with you.

You say 'that would probably be quicker than writing a thorough in depth manual'

Krowe says 'Our build port has none of our new areas installed in it for that reason.'
Manok says 'hmm'

Dakota says 'around 8 years i think. i have been with it about 5 1/2'

Manok says '3 for me'

Feylind has returned from the void.

Dakota says 'i'm wrong.  started in 95'

You say 'there is still some clean up to do on it, but the bulk of it is done'

Mearn has returned from the void.

Dsark chats 'Oh good... I'm not too late to be back :}'

Hephos says 'how many zones does it have?'

Hephos says 'that is not found on stock muds'

Manok says '1300+ rooms'

Manok says 'er...13000+'

Hephos says 'hehe nods was thinking there fora sec'

Manok chuckles politely.

Dakota says '129 original, 17 stock according to our little stat command'

Dakota chuckles politely.

Manok says 'i'm the typo king.'

Feylind nods solemnly.

Zaroth agrees with Manok.

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Zaroth is narrowly missed by a low-flying dragon.

Feylind kneels down and sacifices a cookie to Manok.

Zaroth rolls on the floor laughing hysterically.

Manok smiles happily.

Zaroth prostrates itself before Feylind.

Feylind is now blessed against typos for the night.

Zaroth says 'muh favorite goddess'

Zaroth winks at Feylind.

Hephos says 'hmm nog, mebbe we're ready to open soon then :)   says 148 in stats,  though about 10 are map zones and another 10 are specials for artifact vnums etc etc'

Akasha chats 'nice meeting everyone goodbye! :)'

Kooky chats 'Cya'

Kristi chats 'laters:)'

Zaroth chats 'night Akasha :D'

Angel chats 'Night Akasha :)'

Dakota says 'what kind of playerbase do you expect? large? smaller? are you going to allow multiplaying?'

Talanthas says 'Who?'

You grin evilly.

Dakota says 'you and hephos :)'

Talanthas smiles happily.

Zaroth says 'multiplaying is nice, saved me many times'

Zaroth grins evilly.

Talanthas says 'Well, I've asked the owner (Belgarath) about multiplaying...Since he wants to encourage RP, I've asked him to at least limit multi'

Talanthas says 'Hard to do RP and multi at the same time'

Dakota says 'agreed'

You nod solemnly.

Hephos says 'ahh we're hopeing for a large pbase actually hehe'

Zaroth says 'I RP all 6 of my multis'

Zaroth says '(not at the same time obviously)'

Hephos says 'and no multi playing'

Talanthas says 'At the same time, Zaroth?'

Zaroth shakes its head.

Zaroth says 'no, we have a limit'

Feylind says 'ahh i was speaking with Belgarath in another room'

Feylind has gotten a clue.

Talanthas beams a smile at Feylind.

Zaroth eats Feylind's clue.

Feylind says 'really, if you even out your classes enough, you shoudn't need multiplaying'

Talanthas says 'As for size of player base...Who knows?  Of course we're hoping for a large one, but we have so many changes in the offing that there's no telling what will happen.'

Feylind says 'at phoenix, its possible, but a little hard, but if we removed neg exp we place on grouping, it could be done'

You say 'multying does come in handy when no one else is on'

Feylind nods in agreement with you.

Zaroth says 'actually, our grouped exp is good'

Zaroth says 'considering the formula'

Angel chats 'Hello Sadiq :)'

Manok says 'tneds to delgate clerics and mana slingers to the back burners though'

Feylind says 'Zar, its terrible, you put more than four people in, and you get nil'

Zaroth says 'its remorts grouped with non that bleed exp'

Zaroth says '5'
Angel chats 'If you need your title set feel free to send Kristi or I a tell :)'

Zaroth says 'and its a group avg'
Samson chats 'Greetings Sadiq'

Zaroth says 'within 15 lvs'

Zaroth winks at Feylind.

Kristi chats ':)'
Zaroth says 'I got that from Dakota :D'

Zaroth licks Feylind.

You say 'but it also lets a smaller number of people hoard the rare eq'

Dakota says 'tal you might consider multiplaying at first till your pbase is more defined and then decide if you want to keep multiplaying or not'

Nall chats 'yea that have no lives so its not a problem for them :)'

Sadiq chats 'Hello all....sorry I am late'

Talanthas says 'Well, right now I don't think there is any limit on it...Except for deadlies'

Angel chats 'no problem :)'

KaVir chats 'It's okay, we all waited for you before starting'

Ebon chats 'Hi Sadiq '

Zaroth chats 'good to see ya Sadiq =)'

Samson chats 'heh. You weren't the only one late :P'

Ntanel chats 'ya missed thoric by a little bit'

Talanthas says 'And then only because we have our imms keeping an eye out for that'

Sadiq chats 'Ahh...too bad'

Ntanel chats 'so we saved you this naked pick of him he left, it is a stick drawing, but you still get an idea what you missed'


Sadiq chats 'Hehehe'

OrionElder chats 'Heh, Sadiq. ;)'

OrionElder chats 'Running late? ;)'

Kristi chats 'heh'

Dakota says 'do you plan to allow player killing?'

Dace chats 'Hmm.'

Sadiq chats 'Heya Orion :)'

Dace chats 'Trippy.'

OrionElder chats 'Heh. :)'

You say 'who?'

Dakota says 'whoever wants to answer :)'

You say 'yup'

Dace chats 'As Sadiq logged on my music said the Latest and the Greatest.'

Dace chats '*boggles*'

You say 'adds a little edge to the game'

OrionElder chats '*laugh*&C'

Sadiq chats ':)'

Talanthas says 'For deadlies, of course....Also in some smaller areas where it would be thematically correct, I think we will even allow peacefuls to get involved in it'

Dakota says 'do you let anyone attack? or must they be within certain levels? are corpses free game?'

Sadiq chats 'Okay.....what Do I need to do now...never been to one of these :)'

OrionElder chats ';) Talk, best thing. ;)'

Dace chats 'Have fun. :->'

OrionElder chats '*chuckle* ;)'

Sadiq chats 'Groovy :)'

You say 'were going to go with level restrictions even though some people say it detracts from rp'

Feylind chats 'pick a good'

Dace chats 'Kinda like a mudparty.'

You say 'people just do twinky things if you dont have it'

Dakota nods solemnly.

Feylind chats 'er.. pick a ROOM'

Talanthas agrees with you.

Manok says 'how did you get good from room fey?'

Ntanel chats 'opposed ot picking a nose'

You say 'a player will be able to reserve one thing that can not be looted from their corpse'

Mearn disappears into the void.

Dace chats 'Yah, like Nat over there.'

Zaroth says 'wish that that the server would add a warning flag to certain domains...and then if they act up or get out of hand, its open season without getting PK flags'

Ntanel leaves in a swirling mist.
Koryon chats 'or chewing on buttons'

Feylind obviously sac'ed the wrong kind of cookie.

Kristi chats 'heh'

Dace chats 'lol'

Manok nods solemnly.

Dakota says 'we don't allow it currently, but whenever we move to our next version we are going to need to....there is too much desire for it currently'

Zaroth says 'anyone else agree with me?'

You say 'outside of that, eq is part of why you pk :)'

Feylind snorts in disgust.

Feylind says 'i hop no Dak, its not that the players want pk'

Manok says 'i wouldnt have minded killing tyrin a few times.'

Dakota chuckles politely.

Feylind says 'is that CERTAIN, -very loud- players want pk'

Sadiq chats 'I am humbled to be in the company of such august personages :)'

Feylind says 'thou with the largest mouth often wins'

Brody leaves east.

Ntanel chats 'ok, enough bum kissing, goto kavir or something'

Dace chats 'Heh, if yer smart, you'll run now.'

Zaroth says 'I probably should have been nailed for blinding him while he was fighting, but i evaded'

Manok says 'biggest stick usualy wins.'

Zaroth says 'he was a pain in everyone's side'

Zaroth says 'and won't be missed in the least bit'
Sadiq chats ';)'

Dace chats 'hehe'

Zaroth says 'thats my standpoint'

Nall chats 'why are all the owners of muds old?'

Dace chats 'Uhh.'

Dace chats 'Not ture.'

Zaroth says 'and I silenced the room, just like I do on Phoenix'

You chat 'define old'

Ntanel chats 'i am 23, i find myself elderly, opposed to old'
Samson chats 'Because young owners can't afford to pay the bills :)'

Dace chats 'Yer boss is 17, remember that.'

Dakota chats 'because it costs money and 15 year olds don'ta have any!'

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Kooky chats 'Kristi aint old'

You smile happily.

Kristi chats 'im not old:('

OrionElder chats 'I'm old!'

OrionElder chats 'I'm old. ;)'

Dace chats 'Im old!'

KaVir chats 'I'm not commenting'

Ebon chats 'if your old Orion ...I'm Ancient'

Crono chats 'dace isnt old'

OrionElder chats ';)'

Kristi chats 'I'll only be 21 this year :P '

Kooky chats 'I'm older than she is...  right boss lady?'

Dakota says 'what mud to you work out of michelle?'

Sadiq chats '::responds the only way a wise man can:::'

OrionElder chats 'I'm 19. ;)'

Crono chats 'dace is aged to prefection'

Dace chats 'Heh.'


Dace chats 'That's right.'

Crono chats 'hehe'

Kristi chats 'i told u not to call me that:P'


Dace chats '*bends over*'

Nall chats 'your all older then me! so HA!'

Zaroth says 'for those who don't know me, I am the one notorious for silencing rooms'

Malkav chats '<== 24yo.'

Crono chats '*lol*'

Zaroth bows deeply.
Angel chats '*grin* I'm not commenting on that! :P'

Samson chats 'Bah. And you think YOUR old ?'

Zaroth tickles Feylind.

OrionElder chats ';)'

Zaroth pokes Dakota in the ribs.

Crono chats 'im not older than you nall'

Kooky chats '<--22 almost 23'

Zaroth grins evilly at Manok.

Kristi chats 'hehe'

Crono chats 'how old are you?'

Dace chats 'Mabey we are all old? Sitting here bickering about how old we are?'

Shorty chats 'buncha kids'

Nall chats 'im 16'

Angel chats '6 more months and I'm 21!!!!'

Ebon chats '28'

Kristi chats ':P'

Crono chats 'im 16 too'

Sadiq chats 'Unless you remember seeing the Beatles perform on Ed Sullivan, hush up about being old :)'

Samson chats '30 :)'

Dace chats '53'

OrionElder chats ';)'

You chat 'I have always defined old as older than myself, that way I never become old'

Feylind has a sock for you if you really need silenciing.

Kristi chats 'ya right dace:P'

Manok says 'our h-imp remembers 8 tracks'

Dace chats 'heh'

You chat 'well actually I started doing that around 15'

Brody chats 'I remember watching Neil Armstrong walk on the moon...'

Nall chats '79, likes to chase old men'

Dace chats 'Im Kristi's Grandpa.'

Feylind grins evilly.

Crono chats 'lol'

OrionElder chats 'I'm just curious, how many of you have a bad opinion of me? :)'

Zaroth nods in agreement to Manok.

Ntanel chats 'i remember watching mr rogers when he had black hair'

Zaroth chuckles politely.
Kooky chats 'Hahah'

Feylind blinks in utter disbelief.
Dace chats 'Come here sonny.'

Nall chats 'err young boys very young!'

Crono chats 'hahahah'

Kristi chats 'no way:P'

Malkav chats 'I have no idea who you are.'

Feylind says '-i- remember 8-tracks.'

Crono chats 'mr rogers with black hair'


Kristi chats 'haha nat'

Crono chats 'must have been ages ago'

Samson chats 'People have a bad opinion of you?'

Dakota chats 'i remember bob barker with brown hair'


Nall chats 'umm who are you?'


OrionElder chats 'Just curious if anyone does. ;)'

Dace chats 'lol'

Kooky chats 'I watched mr rogers with black hair, ya don't have to be THAT old to have seen that.'

OrionElder chats 'Heh, since no one seems to know me, I'll take it as a no. :P'

You say 'are we still tlaking about pk?'

OrionElder chats '@nod'

Sadiq chats 'Bob Barker hosting 'Truth or Consequences' :)'

Zaroth says in a stern voice, 'I'll be back!'

Dace chats 'I think yer a bum, hiding whene I was going to crash yer mud, ;-p'


Zaroth leaves east.

Ntanel chats 'before mr rogers did not say "won't you be my neighbor", he used to say "Won't thy be ya neighbor"'

Dakota says 'i asked you what mud you work out of :)'

Ntanel chats 'er ye, not ya'

OrionElder chats 'My wife remembers that. ;) And she's only 19. ;)'

Dace chats 'heh'

Feylind says 'i think so'

Kristi chats ':P'

Nall chats 'dam! how old are you like 79?'

Dace chats 'I never watched MrRogers in my life..'

Kristi chats 'Lucky you:P'

Feylind stands up and starts waving her !PK sign.

Monitor: Rathian@210.55.80.89 new Human Warrior.

Ntanel chats 'doh, the monkeys are in town and i missed it'

Nall chats 'i watched it once it was as stupid as barney'


Angel chats 'My Dad teaches 2nd grade, came home the other day and made me feel really old..he was doing report cards and all his kids were born in 93. No that makes me feel old'

Kristi chats 'I had younger sibblings:('

Angel chats 'Hello Rathian :)'

Nall chats 'im the youngest :)'

Sadiq arrives from the east.

Dace chats 'Ditto'

Ntanel chats 'i ate a few of my siblings, tasted like chicken'

Dace chats 'Im a young one'

Rathian chats 'Hi :)'

Angel chats 'if you need your title set send a tell to either me or Kristi :)'

Nall chats 'my brothers and sisters range from 18 to 29 :)'

Manok says 'bah'

You say 'currently i wam writing an original codebase with my husband'

Dace chats 'Ribs Ntanel, there the best'

Manok says 'chicken HAD to come up'

Dace chats 'Slow cooked over an open fire.'

Kristi chats 'you want mine nat?'

Feylind grins evilly.

Dakota says 'ohhh how neat'

Feylind hugs Manok.

Dace chats '*drools on angel*'

OrionElder chats 'Has Kyndig been here?'

Nall chats 'i do i know a nice recipe for little brother stew'
You say 'muds Ive worked on Erizon, Allandria, World of Despair, Spellbound, Oddville, and Denshara'

Dakota says 'are you basing it on any one in particular? or is it just a mangle of all the good ideas from the various ones now?'

Ntanel chats 'actually him and rod have not shown'

Angel chats '*wipes up Dace's drool*'

Ntanel chats 'that is 4 people who have not made it now'

Koryon chats 'or Erwin?'

OrionElder chats 'Hmmm...'

Nall chats '*pokes dace with large metal objects*'
Dace chats 'Nall, yer sis is hawt.'

You say 'compeltely rebuilding the structure'

Ntanel chats 'nemon said erwin passed out'

OrionElder chats 'Or Altrag?'

Koryon chats 'hehe'

You say 'not basing it on any of htem'

Ntanel chats 'lets see who is on yonder icq'
Dakota says 'in C still? or something else?'

You say 'java'

OrionElder chats 'Heh, just curious who all HASN'T made it, that said they'd be here. :0'

Ebon appears in a swirling mist.

Dakota says 'ahhh'

Talanthas says, 'ooOOooOOooOOoo.'

Nall chats 'i have four people on my icq :)'

OrionElder chats 'err :0'

Angel chats 'Ok, I gotta disown you now Dace, I don't like her, she calls me a slut and stuff :P'

OrionElder chats 'err damnit, I can't type when I try to type TOO fast. :p'
Talanthas says 'That will be cool'

Dace chats 'Heh.'

Ntanel chats 'hmm, it is saturday, maybe they changed plans?'

Dace chats 'As long as you keep buulding, im happy. ;-p'

You smile happily.

Ayana arrives from the east.

You say 'we think so'

Angel chats 'You better be :P'

OrionElder flows into the room, shifting from water to solid form.

Talanthas says 'Can you reccomend a good source for learning basic java?  (I'm very interested)'

Dace chats 'WEll, mabey abit faster...'

Dace chats '*coughs*'


Angel chats 'Shush you :P'

Dakota says 'your hubby that person i saw on earlier in the coder room?'

Zaroth appears in a swirling mist.

Rathian arrives from the east.

OrionElder says 'Java? Ummm... well, you can always try many college websites.'

Dace chats 'Gunna make me?'

You say 'no'

Angel chats 'Yep'

OrionElder says 'They usually have lots of java resources.'

Crono chats '16'

Kristi chats 'yes'

You say 'hes not on today'

Dace chats '*takes off his stinky socks*'

Zaroth creeps in silently.

Dakota says 'ah'
Dace chats 'Ok, let's go.'

Ayana leaves east.

Talanthas nods in agreement to OrionElder.

Angel chats '*plugs her nose and grabs the handcuffs*'

Dakota says 'someone was on earlier that had something about developer for mud java resource kit or something'

Monitor: Shiro@158.252.163.201 new Elf Mage.

Nall chats '*takes off his shoes and see people run for the door*'

Ayana arrives from the east.

Dace chats '*smacks angel over the head with his socks*'


OrionElder says 'Michelle, would just have to say, I liked your site (what I saw of it). :)'

You nod solemnly.

You say 'thank you :)'

Crono chats 'lol'

Angel chats 'Go away Shiro'

Krowe arrives from the east.

Dace chats '*pokes Shiro*'

OrionElder says 'The JDK. That's the actual kit from sun.com.'

Dace chats 'Sawp mang?'

Feylind nods in agreement to OrionElder.

Zaroth nods solemnly.

Shiro chats 'hows it goin'

Dace chats 'It's allright.'

Feylind says 'Iluvatar showed me it as well, its excellent'

Shiro chats 'thats cool'

Kooky chats '*Shoots Dace in his feet for continual foot oder abuse.'

Sadiq leaves east.

Shiro chats 'lol'

Dakota says 'right....but one geared towards muds or something'

You say 'have you looked at it today Feylind?'

You say 'I redid the layout, added more navigation'

Zaroth says 'I have yet to see the site at all, do you have a URL handy Michelle? :D'

Feylind says 'not today'

Feylind says 'abouat a week ago'

Manok says 'ditto'

Kristi chats 'Hrm'

Feylind says 'same time Iluv saw it'

You say 'its in my title :)'

Feylind says 'new stuff added?'

Zaroth nods solemnly.

You say 'http://www.artofbuilding.eqsdesigns.com'

OrionElder laughs.

Zaroth says 'I don't whois unless I'm curious about levels'

Zaroth chuckles politely.

You say 'not yet'

OrionElder laughs.

Kristi chats 'Hello shiro'

You say 'Ive added a couple of new pages like books and software'

Zaroth says 'jas here'

Shiro chats 'hi kristi hows it goin'

You are filled with an odd sense of peace and tranquility.

Shiro chats '*tips hat*'

Kristi chats 'good'

You say 'but I still have to add a bit of content to them'

Kristi chats 'and you?'

OrionElder says 'Has anyone here ever heard of abits/qbits?'

Shiro chats 'pretty good just chillin'

Rathian says 'not me'

Kristi chats 'ahhh...'

Feylind shakes her head.

OrionElder says 'I think they're smaug specific, however I'm not too sure about that.'

Zaroth says 'I like the layout, I'm peekin' a bit here'

You say 'nope'

Zaroth says 'in reference to vectors?'

You say 'as for hearing about them'

OrionElder says 'Ok. Just curious because I had a semi-active builder... he stayed for all of about two days... it's sad that I consider that semi-active...'

Talanthas says 'I've heard of qbits as related to quantum computing'

OrionElder says 'Well, I was speaking in relation to building. They are supposed to be dynamically assigned bits used to allow/disallow certain things, etc.'

Sadiq chats 'I figured out what title to use, if whoever offered to set it, is still willing ;)'

You nod solemnly.

Dace chats 'k'

Talanthas nods solemnly.

Dace chats 'What you want?'

Angel chats 'Kristi me or Dace can do it :)'

Feylind sticks her tongue out at Manok, apparently thinking this will impress him.  Whadda jerk!

Manok bursts into tears.

Sadiq chats 'how about this - "Amateur Website developer and Itinerate Coder"'

Krowe leaves east.

You say 'I couldnt tell you what codebase it is from'
Sadiq chats ':)'

OrionElder says 'However I was curious if anyone had any knowledge of them, and if they're as good as Larthos made them out to be. :)'

Angel chats 'Cammibal!!'

(51) Nall chats 'hi cam'

Cam chats 'Yeah, it's me;)'

Dace chats 'Cammibal!'

Samson chats 'Heya Cam :)'

Kristi chats 'cam!'

Dace chats '*eats cam's arm*'

You say 'isn't LArthos an LPC proponent?'

Cam chats 'Oooo...I almost feel popular here:P'

Kristi chats '*hugs cam*'

OrionElder says 'I dunno. I know Larthos/Larvantholos is a builder. :)'

Cam chats '*licks Kristi*'

Ntanel chats 'Norm!... er Cam!'

Cam chats 'Hehe'

Kristi chats ':)'

You say 'I think I remember him posting in regards to LPC a couple of times'

Manok pokes Feylind in the ribs.

Sadiq chats 'Just wanted to know how other keep/maintain it...and what they thought of my ideas to do so :)'

Ebon says 'i just took a look .... I LIKE your site michelle'

OrionElder says 'However both MUDs I've known of him to build on are mine (SMAUG derivative) and Ben Baril's another SMAUG derivative.'

You say 'which could mean that the abit/qbit stuff is an LPc thing'

You say 'Thank you :)'

You nod solemnly.

Manok says 'jeeze, a balloon just flew past my window and freaked me out'

OrionElder says 'And the code I found is for SMAUG, however it could be ported from something else.'

You say 'give me a second and '

OrionElder rolls on the floor laughing hysterically.

You say 'you could ask Garil'

You say 'his mud is Smaug'

OrionElder nods solemnly.

Dace chats 'Ender Bender!'

OrionElder says 'Just curious, but what is everyone's opinion on the use of first person/first person allusions, as well as forced actions in rooms?'

Ender chats 'i have arrived =P'

Kristi chats 'ender!'
Apia chats 'cyas later..this has been fun!'
Dace chats 'Sawp guy?'

Angel chats 'oh! Ender will be my slave! :P'

Ntanel chats 'ok, thanks for coming ender, see ya, hehe'

Kristi chats 'laters'

Ender chats 'lol'

Manok chats 'c ya apia'

Talanthas says 'I never use 1st person in room descs.  I use 2nd person a lot, though'

OrionElder says 'For example?'

Dakota says 'well ladies and ghents. its been great, but my mind is mush :)'

Manok waves goodbye to Dakota.

Talanthas waves goodbye to Dakota.

OrionElder laughs.

OrionElder waves happily.

Manok says 'buyh bye dakky'

You say 'by forced actions, do you mean when a room/object/ or mob makes the player perform a comamnd?'

Iluvatar appears in a swirling mist.

OrionElder shakes his head.

> curt dak
You curtsey to him.

Dakota chats 'its been great ladies and gents. don't forget to rub your eyes often!'

Iluvatar bows deeply.

Dakota has left the game.

Manok says 'once bossman and fey leave, ill be the biggest pm imp on!'

Kristi chats 'laters:)'

Manok throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Iluvatar chuckles politely.

OrionElder says 'I mean more specifically something like "You are standing here, and are scared out of your mind, as you look at bucky the rabid rabbit." or some such thing.'

You nod solemnly.

Zaroth says 'and I'll be the last PM builder on, since I have the inability yo sleep and everyone will pass out'

You say 'I hate You are Standing'

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Talanthas tries not to tell players how they are feeling.

OrionElder nods solemnly.

You say 'detest it'

Iluvatar agrees with you.

OrionElder says 'I hate 'you' in any form in rooms descriptions.'

Iluvatar says 'it's too common'

You nod solemnly.

Talanthas says 'I believe that you can set the mood better by describing what makes the person scared, rather than just telling them to be scared'

You say 'forcing players to commit actions has potential though'

Sadiq chats 'Plus....mobs have an 'offset' field that can be set, online'

OrionElder says 'I much prefer something like "The walls of the tower stretch high into the clouds, with random windows at each level." or something more elaborate.'

Talanthas agrees with OrionElder.

OrionElder says 'Something that describes what should be feared, but lets them make their own opinion.'

Talanthas nods solemnly.

OrionElder says 'What scares one person may humor another.'

Feylind nods solemnly.

Feylind pouts.

Feylind says 'i have to run'

Zaroth cuddles Feylind.

Zaroth greets Feylind warmly.
Iluvatar comforts Feylind.
Manok waves goodbye to Feylind.

You say 'I was thinking about forcing players to leave the room, or such as far as my action comments went'

Iluvatar hugs Feylind.

Numark waves goodbye to Feylind.

Talanthas waves goodbye to Feylind.

OrionElder says 'Just curious if I was the only person who saw room descriptions in that form as something to immediately want to change. ;)'

Feylind has BEEN running, to the comp, from the comp, to her keys, back to her comp...

OrionElder nods solemnly.

Zaroth says 'get rest Fey hon, I'll flirt with ya later'

Feylind hugs you all in a big group hug.  How sweet!

> wave feyl
You wave goodbye to Feylind.

Zaroth winks at Feylind.

OrionElder laughs.

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Feylind hugs Iluvatar.
OrionElder waves happily.

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Feylind thinks, 'Hmmmm.'

Iluvatar says 'I am constantly changing context of rooms I find'
Feylind blinks in utter disbelief.

You nod solemnly.

Feylind says 'ah..'

Feylind says 'how do you leave?'

Zaroth says 'camp?'

Manok says 'quit'

Iluvatar says 'quit Fey'

Feylind curtseys gracefully.

Feylind has left the game.

You say 'quit'

Zaroth says 'ahhh'

Zaroth nods solemnly.

Zaroth says 'I learned something new today'

You say 'what is that?'

Manok says 'pea with the wind?'

Manok says 'pee even\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'

Talanthas raises an eyebrow at Manok.

OrionElder rolls on the floor laughing hysterically.

Talanthas grins evilly.

Manok says 'oops'

Manok says 'stuck key'

Iluvatar chuckles politely.

Manok says 'never pee on an electric fence, rule #439 of the Man guide'


OrionElder says 'Yeah, and also a Ren and Stimpy song. :P'
Talanthas grins evilly.

Iluvatar says 'Manok is our ADD representative methinks, he is awesome but tends to pun a lot'

Iluvatar hugs Manok.

Talanthas know's people who have pee'd on electric fences....

Sadiq chats 'Sorry about that xchan :)'

Manok says 'they are punny, everyone ELSE likes them.'

Zaroth says 'hehe'

Iluvatar says '50 at a time?'

Iluvatar blinks in utter disbelief.

OrionElder says 'It's like saying "mud-slinging" in reference to flaming someone about a MUD. :P'

You say 'zaroth, what did you learn?'

Talanthas raises an eyebrow at Iluvatar.

Manok says 'hmm...that reminds me.'

Zaroth says 'to shut up and listen to experience talk, and learn/reflect on it'

Zaroth smiles happily.

Krowe leaves east.

Krowe arrives from the east.

Krowe leaves east.

Iluvatar hugs Zaroth.

Zaroth hugs Iluvatar.

Zaroth says 'thanx chief'

OrionElder says 'Not only that, but you should always make an idiot of yourself, then when you say something that is normally simply informed, from you it become prolific. ;)'

Zaroth says 'I needed that'

Zaroth bursts into tears.

Iluvatar says 'but always question!! if you disagree'

Manok says 'ok, why kill the pun guy?'

Zaroth says 'you know I will'

OrionElder smiles happily.

Manok says '*I* thought he was funnyt'

OrionElder says 'Ok, sorry to drop in and run, but time to visit other rooms. :)'

OrionElder smiles happily.

OrionElder waves happily.

OrionElder changes into water, and dissolves into the ground.

Zaroth says 'I always ask foolish questions'

Talanthas begins making sheeplike noises.

Ebon leaves in a swirling mist.

You say 'okay someone with experience has to speak for zar's deal to work'

Nall chats 'afk for a while peoples'

Talanthas says 'No such thing as a fooling question'

You patiently twiddle your thumbs.

Zaroth says 'speaking of which, right before my zone gets IMP'd, I'll need special approval of the piece I want to load'

Manok knits a sweater.

Iluvatar says 'didn't hear the question milady'

Talanthas raises an eyebrow at you.

Zaroth says 'asking questions I should know the answer to as a builder are foolish'
Ender chats 'hey everybody! it's a garinan pic!'

Talanthas says 'What deal?'

Dace chats 'Woot, I broke into Garinan's house.'

Michelle knits a Manok.

Talanthas shakes his head in Zaroth's direction.

Cam chats 'OOooOOooo'

Koryon chats 'well, it looks like I'll head out now, was fun, hopefully I'll see y'all again the next time around'

Talanthas says 'There's a lot to know about building'

Talanthas says 'Hard to keep track of it all'

Angel chats 'Bye Koryon :)'

You say 'the bit about listening to people with experience speak'

Koryon chats '*waves*'

Ntanel chats 'ciao kor'

Ntanel chats 'thanks for coming'

Talanthas says 'Oh..'

You say 'it got quiet, so I thought everyone was trying to aplly it'

Koryon chats 'my pleasure :)'

Zaroth snickers softly.

Iluvatar says 'ahh, nah, if you don't ask questions you never learn'

You shrug.

Manok learns more from mistakes than questions.

You nod solemnly.

You say 'me too'

Zaroth says 'me too'

Iluvatar says 'I dunno about you guys, but I am so old I forget tons of things until asked about it'

Talanthas says 'I mean seriously Zaroth...I'm supposed to be head builder for a mud...And you heard the questions I was asking earlier'

You say 'you should see some of my first zones'

Talanthas agrees with Iluvatar.

You peer intently about your surroundings.

Zaroth says 'and I"m curious who keeps altering my hidden door in my zone.....'

Zaroth grins evilly.

Iluvatar chuckles politely.

Iluvatar says 'zedit it in Zaroth hehe'

Zaroth says 'I added it, and it keeps getting yanked'

Zaroth says 'I did'


Zaroth says '3 times'

Manok says 'zs save?'

Zaroth says 'then on proof of 10 room'

Zaroth says 'it magically disappeared'

Zaroth says 'so I added it again'

Iluvatar says 'then it must need indexing and you need help'

Manok says 'index 150 as well then'

Zaroth says 'its nothing special right now'

Manok grumbles.

Iluvatar chuckles politely.

Zaroth throws Iluvatar a ~

Zaroth winks at Iluvatar.

Iluvatar says 'eww'

Zaroth is narrowly missed by a low-flying dragon.

Zaroth says 'I can honestly say I've never done it'

Zaroth says 'which is a good thing, or you'd kill me'

Zaroth says 'over and over'

Zaroth says 'hehe'

Manok says 'no, he reserves that for puns, alek kills you for the ~!'

Iluvatar says 'so you guys know, tildes crash us every time and it won't reboot builders'

Zaroth says 'yes, I do know that'

You nod solemnly.

Zaroth says 'even in descs it can'

Manok says 'and our Hoarde imp dislike spuns.  so everyone mail him one :-)'

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Iluvatar says 'I used that title cause we had a serious bunch of us on -- tantamount to a hoarde I felt'

Manok throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!

Talanthas grins evilly at Iluvatar.
You say 'the imp of the first mud I immed on was very punny'

Iluvatar says 'I plugged the contest on immchat Michelle, hopefully it will spur submissions'

You say 'much to our dismay'

Manok chuckles politely.

Zaroth raises its hand in response.

Zaroth says 'I am'

You smile happily.

Zaroth says 'and i'll take it home for Phoenix.'

Manok says 'wonder if he will send me any, i need to add a few to my zone'

You say 'cool'

Zaroth beefs up, trying to look badass...how cute.

You say 'she'

Manok says 'my mistake, she'

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Iluvatar says 'all you guys realize I am advertising it on Phoenix but if all the entries are from Phoenix I have no work to do?'

You say 'most imps where hes in those days'

You grin evilly.

Iluvatar throws back its head and cackles with insane glee!

Zaroth says 'Phoenix was my first home, and will always be my home'

You nod solemnly.

Zaroth says 'been there longer then 3/4 of the IMP's'

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Zaroth gets 2.0 flashbacks.

You say 'If my first home existed, I would still play there'

Iluvatar agrees with Zaroth.
Talanthas yawns.

Zaroth screams!

You say 'dalemuds never last though'

You say 'they blow chunks on the administrative side'

Ntanel chats 'afk all, gotta do something'

Talanthas says 'Well ppl, it's been nice meeting you.  I've picked up some interesting ideas today, but I'm gonna go now.'

Manok waves happily.

Talanthas waves happily.

You say 'well except for Shadowdale'

Kristi chats 'nods'

Manok says 'buh bye'

You wave.

Iluvatar says 'my first was a Harvard.edu mud that I think they were using for psyche study'

Talanthas has left the game.

Zaroth says 'PK mud?'

Iluvatar says 'no'

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Zaroth nods solemnly.

Iluvatar says 'way back in 96 though'

Iluvatar says 'and Midgaard so seriously lame'

You say 'how did it feel to be  lab rat?'

Iluvatar says 'it felt wierd once I realized it'

You say 'wow solarae quit a long time ago'

Manok is a scientest still followingiluv....but dont tell him.

Iluvatar rolls on the floor laughing hysterically.

Iluvatar bonks Manok! BONK!! BONK!! BONK!!

Manok the typos and puns are th throw him off.

Iluvatar says 'oh sure, social behavioralist'

You grin evilly.

Zaroth says 'I've doin' a psychological study on Iluv as well, Aleks's logs come in handy'

Zaroth nods in agreement to Manok.

Zaroth grins evilly.

Ayana leaves east.

Manok says 'yups, got my phd in human psyche'

Iluvatar rolls on the floor laughing hysterically.

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Zaroth says 'we need to make triggers !stat'

Manok says 'or get imm's we trust?'

Iluvatar says 'so you guys figured out I am an acute manic with paranoid delusions and repressive social values and skills from an abusive childhood?'

You say 'or do the build port thing, alter an existing zone'

Zaroth says 'well, I was accused of statting and abusing triggers that I was never near, and it aggitated me to say the least'

Manok says 'with bi polar disorder'

You nod solemnly.

Manok says 'and a fear of puns'

Iluvatar says 'ahh, you found that too'

Zaroth says 'so I just let it go, and they eventually left it alone'

You nod solemnly.

Zaroth says 'which one? '

Manok says 'punaphobia'

You are filled with an odd sense of peace and tranquility.

Iluvatar searches around for it's magical bag of tricks.

Manok hides.

You say 'have example zones on the build port that are copies of existing zones only edited so the knowledge gained from them wont be useful to the builder's players'

Zaroth gets a square package out of a leather backpack.

Zaroth gives a square package to Iluvatar.

Zaroth nods solemnly.

You say 'then outlaw stating on the main port'

Manok says 'the lack of trust conveyed is kind of insulting'

You say 'by builders'

Zaroth says 'I about got killed by Apia'

Hephos sits down and thinks deeply.


Zaroth says 'I was designing mobs for my Mu zone'

Zaroth says 'and I was stating casting weapons'

Zaroth says 'for avg dam, things like that'

You say 'imms have to earn trust'

Zaroth says 'and I had to explain that before he canned me'

You say 'im not going to just give someone trust as soon as they are immed'

Zaroth says 'I understand that completely'

Iluvatar says 'trust has to be earned'

You say 'some imms will prove themselves trustworthy and be advanced to level that have more power, some will not'

Zaroth says 'and I'm not saying that be playing there forever helps in any way, nor do I expect it just to be handed to me'

You nod solemnly.

You say 'it was in response to Marnok'

Manok nods solemnly.

Ebon chats 'g'night all ...thanks, I had fun'

KaVir chats 'Night Ebon'

Kristi chats 'night:)'

Angel chats 'night Ebon :)'

Zaroth chats 'night Ebon!'

Iluvatar chats 'night'

OrionElder chats 'I'll be back in about an hour, if anyone is still here. :)'

You say 'when someone plays for a while, you can get a general feel for how they might be'

OrionElder chats '*wave*'

Sadiq chats 'Seeya Orion :)'

Zaroth says 'we need these meet and greets every other month or so'

Angel chats 'Bye Orion :)'

Zaroth says 'and get major server companies involved, with ISP's and colleges'

You say 'but some people change tremendously once they immort'

Numark disappears into the void.

Iluvatar says 'old administrators get a feel for predicting new builders'

Numark has returned from the void.

You say 'so there also need to be some sort of trial period'

Iluvatar says 'some turn total jerk, some turn super responsible'

Zaroth says 'I'm just glad you have faith that I won't abuse anything Iluv, that means alot coming from a chief.'

Zaroth smiles happily.

You nod solemnly.

Manok says 'othes discover badpun.com'

You say 'and some just kiss up :P'

Iluvatar agrees with you.

You nudge it.

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Zaroth says 'no, not at all'

Iluvatar says 'most of our system is automated'

You nod solemnly.

Manok says 'yea, i havnt gotten any lipstick on my rear yet.'

Manok sniffs sadly.

You say 'thats the way to go'

You agree with him.
Iluvatar says 'my task is leveling those I think earn it'

Iluvatar says 'and levels relate to trust'

Iluvatar says 'and caring which is most important thing an immortal can show me'

You nod solemnly.

Zaroth says 'thats why I don't just slop rooms together, I've re-written rooms 3 times a pop, and and extras, including moving the layout twice'

You nod solemnly.

Zaroth says 'and the layout is getting changed again'

You say 'do you map your areas before building?'

Zaroth says 'yes'


Manok says 'i map mine during'

Zaroth says 'I've mapped them on grid paper'

Iluvatar says 'I think Michelle would also agree, if you build for a mud, that is your home away from home.  You keep your house clean and take special care of it, cause yours.'

You smile happily.

You nod solemnly.

Iluvatar says 'I always map on paper before creating'

Zaroth says 'I take pride in Phoenix, and when people criticize the small mistakes on players, it aggitates me a lil' bit'

You grin evilly.

Iluvatar says 'just silly that way I guess, but it keeps it to making sense if others map it'

Hephos says 'damn getting tired, 6am  been coding whole day and night'

Hephos snickers softly.

You say 'see, pride and common sense isn't asking for the stars'

Zaroth says 'thats how it should be'

Iluvatar agrees with you.

You smile at it.

Zaroth says 'if you don't take pride in your MUD and your work'

Zaroth says 'whats the point in coding?'

Zaroth says 'or building?'

You say 'exactly'

Iluvatar says 'I think I have done pretty good in screening the applications for builders'

Manok says 'cept all us aol got thorugh'

Iluvatar says 'we have a lot, but I value the ability of each'

Zaroth says 'I'm surprised mine passed to be honest'

Iluvatar says 'AOL is not the devil'

Zaroth says 'my original 3 were horrible'

Hephos says 'whats ad to phoenix?  never logged on'

Hephos smirks.

Iluvatar says 'it's the sporadic freak that usually uses AOL'

Manok says 'mud.phoenixmud.org 4000'

Manok is that freak.

Zaroth snickers softly.

Zaroth pokes Manok in the ribs.

You say 'just the people who use the freee trial period to be intentionally abusive'

Iluvatar says 'we banned em almost a year ago Michelle'

You nod solemnly.

Iluvatar says 'only select open now by request'

Hephos says 'ok, name guidelines  nice'

Zaroth nods solemnly.

Manok says 'woah, he reads em!'

Manok says 'wher is .se?'

Zaroth says 'thats why I think Avatars should be able to give PK flags'

Zaroth says 'based on names'

Iluvatar says 'Hephos would not be here if not smart Manok?'

Iluvatar says 'sweden'

Zaroth says 'by 103, if they aren't trusted'

Manok says 'heh, no one ever reads the policy'

Ayana arrives from the east.

Zaroth says 'there's a problem'

Ayana leaves east.

Zaroth tickles Iluvatar.

Rathian leaves east.

Iluvatar says 'our policy is too restrictive but it seems to work'

You nod solemnly.

Zaroth says 'I just want to remort, once I remort all my characters are getting !delete and I"m goin building full time for a year or so'

Iluvatar says 'it's always easier to get easy than to get harder on them'

You say 'what is your policy?'

Ayana arrives from the east.

Manok says 'medieval name, no trademarks or common names, no rank implications'

Iluvatar says 'too long for here Michelle'

Zaroth says 'nothing with #'s'

You grin evilly.

Zaroth says 'log on quick'

You say 'could you email it to me?'

Zaroth says 'and take a peek'

Hephos says 'ahh heh circlemud, though i recognized it at login'

Zaroth winks suggestively at you.

Iluvatar says 'when you have time, I will give you a tour if you wish, or either of these will'

You nod solemnly.

Zaroth nods solemnly.

Manok says 'im on now'

You say 'maybe in a couple of weeks'

Iluvatar says 'whenever ready, we won't fade away soon'

You say 'i've poured so much time into redesigning AoB that I want a break for a bit'

Iluvatar says 'oh, btw - I bet Dakota was getting nervous tics from these names'

Iluvatar throws back its head and cackles with insane glee!

Manok chuckles politely.

Manok says 'siriah too'

You grin evilly.

Angel chats '*yawn*'

Zaroth says 'hehe'
Ayana leaves east.

Cam chats '*puts his finger in your mouth*'

Manok says 'our residentname cops'

Angel chats '*grin* that's not smart :P'

Kristi chats 'heh'

Iluvatar says 'Michelle, policy is we don't take mob names or compound commons or ones that use capitals or vulgar'

Cam chats 'Well, you opened it:P'

Zaroth says 'Saltheart isn't happy, and was screaming at me'

Iluvatar says 'only Imm enforced and not code enforced'

Angel chats 'well it wasn't an invitation for you to stick your finger in it :P'

You say 'I got Solarae reject by Sojourn'

Zaroth says 'really?'

You nod solemnly.

Iluvatar says 'Saltheart has my permission to exist'

Cam chats 'Well, I was trying to be nice:P'

Zaroth says 'I'll relay that so he doesn't flip out'

Manok says 'gonna have to tell me about that one day'

Angel chats '*halo* I won't comment on that :P'

Zaroth says 'we already got accused of having 4 players on'

Ender chats 'lol'

Iluvatar says 'he is a legacy player'

Zaroth says 'because someone didn't look at the DNS differences'

Cam chats '*cackle*'

Manok says 'ah'

Zaroth says 'yes, to say the least'

Zaroth says 'he's older then Iluv's stinky socks'

Zaroth snickers softly.

Manok says 'intreuging names'

Zaroth pokes Iluvatar in the ribs.

You say 'now my hubby and I wil always look like the same box'

You say 'so if someone thinks that we are the same person, we just can't play their mud'

Zaroth says 'he's a friend IRL, and lives 10 minutes from me, he introduced me to Phoenix forever ago'

You nod solemnly.

Zaroth says 'I love the meet and greet'

Zaroth says 'this is sweet'

Freyja arrives from the east.

You nod solemnly.

Zaroth says 'how often do we do this?'

Hephos says 'anyone play sojourn? hmm thought i heard the name'

Zaroth says '4 times a year?'

Manok says 'when do they serve cookies?'

You say 'I tried is a while ago'

Zaroth says 'want somethink to eat?'

Zaroth says 'I"ll brb Manok'

Freyja leaves east.

Zaroth leaves in a swirling mist.

Hephos says 'what ya think of soj? :)'

You say 'I thought the naming convention was too strict'

You say 'Solarae should be accceptable for an elf'

Iluvatar agrees with you.
Hephos says 'yeah its pretty intense'

Zaroth appears in a swirling mist.

Zaroth says 'no cookies'

Iluvatar says 'in a way though, it sorta sets the tone of how to play'

Zaroth gives a bread bowl of chocolate ice cream to Manok.

Hephos nods solemnly.

Zaroth gives you a bread bowl of chocolate ice cream.


Zaroth gives a bread bowl of chocolate ice cream to Hephos.

You shrug.

You say 'not if it goes too far'

Zaroth gives a bread bowl of chocolate ice cream to Iluvatar.

Hephos says 'though, their auto name generator makes 100 times worse elf names'

Zaroth nods solemnly.

Zaroth eats a bread bowl of chocolate ice cream.

Iluvatar says 'the point is be something you are not and if you pick some stupid or common name, you will be harrassed or killed'

Zaroth says 'killed?'

Zaroth says 'I cannot comment on that...'

Iluvatar says 'choose the name Fido, Zareth?'

Zaroth chuckles politely.


Zaroth says 'no'

Zaroth says 'not yet'

Iluvatar says 'but you see my point I hope'

Zaroth says 'but newbies can't get flags'

You say 'it took me half an hour to make up the name Solarae, playing with consenants, and vowels in different spots'

Zaroth says 'we tested that'

Zaroth says 'one of them tried to murder me'

Zaroth says 'when I asked them politely to camp, then create with a new name'

Iluvatar says 'a bonus and a freaking curse is how we use the shortened text'

Iluvatar says 'I am Iluvatar - but that translates to Ilu Iluv Iluva Iluvat Iluvata etc'

You nod solemnly.

Manok says 'works wonders for the typo endowed'

Zaroth says 'Iluva good bowl of soup'

Cam chats 'Later everyone. I might be back in a while;)'

You raise your hand in response.

Zaroth nods solemnly.

Manok says 'not sure i could type iluvatar often without typos'

Ender chats 'later cam'

Zaroth chats 'later Cam'

Iluvatar agrees with Manok.

Zaroth says 'Ender?'

You nod solemnly.

Zaroth says 'wow'

Zaroth says in a stern voice, 'I'll be back!'

Kooky chats 'Cya Cam'
Crono chats 'bye'

Kristi chats 'laters cam:)'

Zaroth leaves in a swirling mist.

Angel chats 'Bye Cammibal! :)'

Cam chats '*licks Kristi*'

You say 'i can't type belt often without typos :)'

Manok nods solemnly.

Manok nods solemnly.

Kristi chats '*licks cam*'

Michelle wears blet.

Manok says 'i typo my login names'

Manok sighs loudly.

Iluvatar a blet covers Michelle with it's slime.

Numark says '*sigh* i better be on my way, hope you don't mind me having listened in even if i didn't talk hardly at all'

Manok waves goodbye to Numark.

You smile at him.

Angel chats 'Hey Roach :)'

Crono chats 'Heya roach'

Numark waves happily.

Numark has left the game.

Rathian arrives from the east.

You say 'I think with the name rules, you should at least send a one line rsponse as to why it is being denied'

Zaroth appears in a swirling mist.

Manok says 'boss?'

Manok says 'you on players?'

Zaroth says 'I am (as a mort)'

Zaroth licks Manok.

Zaroth says 'need undercover work?'

Manok shakes his head.

Zaroth raises its hand in response.

Crono arrives from the east.

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Manok says 'afw'

Roach arrives from the east.

Iluvatar says 'that would be nice Michelle, but too many cooks stirring the pot'

Roach leaves east.

You nod solemnly.

Rathian leaves east.

Crono leaves in a swirling mist.

You say 'are the characters created, and then asked to change?'

Crono arrives from the east.

You say 'or rejected on creation?'

Iluvatar says 'yes, unless totally obnoxious or stupid to begin with'

You nod solemnly.

Roach appears in a swirling mist.

You say 'its the rejection on creation that I don't like'
Roach leaves east.

Iluvatar says 'an example would be Dingbat - would be asked to pick a new one -- Buttmunch would be slayed and made fun of.'
You say 'I could understand if I logged iwth a name like Sup3rTwnK'

Zaroth says 'nod'

Crono leaves east.

KaVir chats 'Night all...5:30am, so I'm going to crash *waves*'

Kristi chats 'night:)'

Angel chats 'Night :)'

Kooky chats 'Cya'

Samson chats 'nite Kavir :)'

Ayana arrives from the east.

Zaroth chats 'night :D'

Ayana leaves east.

You are filled with an odd sense of peace and tranquility.

Zaroth says 'oooo black hand and magic missile...'

Zaroth grins evilly at Iluvatar.

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Trex arrives from the east.

zaroth tickles Iluvatar.

Zaroth beams a smile at Trex.

Iluvatar says 'I have to run guys, past my bedtime and I am getting old'

You nod solemnly.

Zaroth says 'night chief'

Zaroth bows before Iluvatar.


Iluvatar hugs Zaroth.

Manok waves happily.

Manok says 'bye boss'

Iluvatar hugs Manok.

Zaroth shakes its head in Iluvatar's direction.

Ntanel> hehe

Iluvatar hugs you.

Zaroth says 'we'll behave'

Zaroth says 'hehe'

Zaroth says 'oops'

<435hp 309m 690mv> <#9094> hug ilu
You hug it.

Iluvatar says 'our Phoenix tradition is Imms hug, Michelle'

Zaroth says 'wrong emote'

Zaroth nods solemnly.

Zaroth hugs Iluvatar.

Iluvatar waves happily.

Zaroth sweeps Iluvatar into a romantic waltz.

Iluvatar leaves in a swirling mist.

Zaroth chuckles politely.

You say 'its your tradition that your imms hug me?'

Zaroth nods solemnly.

You ponder the question.

Manok says 'i suppose it is :-)'

Zaroth cuddles you.

Zaroth purrs contentedly.

You smile happily.

Zaroth hugs you.

Zaroth smiles happily.

Manok says 'guess im ranking pm now, and have to act normal.'

Zaroth shakes its head.

You say 'that was busy'

Zaroth says 'I am the only maniac of the group'

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Manok says 'you worked on all code bases Michelle?'

You say 'heck no'

Iluvatar chats 'I gots to run peoples and hope to meet you again the next time Ntanel does this.  Please advertise the contest and entice a few of your builders to enter.  A little advertisement goes a long way if they win.'

Zaroth chats 'night boss :D'

Manok chuckles politely.

Kooky chats 'Cya'

Manok says 'which ave you?'

You say 'circle, dale, katmud, and deriviatives and mixes'

Manok nods solemnly.

Zaroth says 'we are a combo unless we changed again'

Zaroth says 'and I didn't hear/see it'

Manok says 'we are basicly circle'

Manok says 'with an upgrade here and there'

You nod solemnly.

Zaroth says 'with a lil' bit of Diku'

Zaroth grins evilly.

Manok says 'circle is diku isnt it'

Zaroth says 'variation, I thought '

Zaroth says 'I'm not too heavy into that'

Manok says 'circle is based on diku i thought'

Zaroth says 'I can just look at the fight.c file and tell you whats wrong'

You nod solemnly.

Zaroth chuckles politely.

You say 'it is a circle derivitive'

Zaroth nods solemnly.

Trex says 'hello everyone'

You say 'i believe it is time for me to go'

Zaroth says 'another thing I just learned'

Zaroth chuckles politely.

Manok says 'sweet dreams'

Manok waves happily.

Zaroth says 'night Michelle'

Manok says 'nice site, btw'

You say 'er Diku derivative that was'

Zaroth says 'nice to meet you, and beautiful site'

Zaroth hugs you.

Zaroth smiles happily.

You say 'thank you :)'

You hug it.

Zaroth says 'stop by and visit us on Phoenix'

Zaroth says 'you are more then welcome'

Zaroth smiles at you.

You hug him.

Manok blushes.

Zaroth wants you to show some interest and is flirting with you.

Manok says 'you know she is married, right Zaroth?'

Manok pats Zaroth on its back.

You grin evilly.

Your surroundings begin to fade as a mystical swirling vortex of colors
envelops your body... When you come to, things are not as they were.

A strange voice says, 'We await your return, Michelle...'